Talk:Party of the Swedes

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Name change

They have, ones again, change their name. This time they call themselves "Swedes party". The article should be moved, Herr X (talk) 11:16, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Neo-Nazi" vs "National Socialist" description dispute

Clearly there are some differences about how the party should be described. I strongly believe "Neo-Nazi" is an unfair label in this case, the party do not use the Swastika symbol, nor do they openly declare themselves "Neo-Nazis". However, it could be argued the party is National Socialist. I think we should either replace "Neo-Nazi" with "National Socialist" or alternatively use neither and for now, use the term blanket term "far-right" until a real consensus is reached on the issue.

Just a further note, in my country we have political parties more radical than the Party of the Swedes yet we do not describe them as Neo-Nazi unless they either use that term themselves or openly use Neo-Nazi symbolism.GlobalWikiActivist88 (talk) 20:22, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In Sweden the party is always refered to as "Nynazistisk" which mean "Neo-nazi" in English. So no, it is not unfair. And the sources used also refers the parti as Neo-nazi. Do you have any sources saying anything else? I have never seen the party described as National Socialist. Dnm (talk) 20:58, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Neo-nazi is also how the party is described by the sources, and neo-nazi and national socialist are not synonyms. We have a large number of third-party sources describing the party as neo-nazi, and one primary source describing it as national socialist.

It's also WP:OR to claim neo-nazi has some 'negative' connotation that national socialist does not. The term is used in plenty of scientific journals, and by the mainstream news media. --4idaho (talk) 11:46, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I know that it's a bit late to respond but I will do it anyways. In Sweden, you have organizations/parties such as the Nordic Resistance Movement (NMR) for short that are Neo-Nazis but don't consider themselves as Neo-Nazis but as National Socialists, as can be seen in this report where they can be heard yelling "National Socialism" and "Folkgemenskap" (Which means something along the lines of "People Comunity" that in NMR are the people and that they want to bring all of the Nordic people together) [1]. They openly praise Hitler and the things that they did. But when they go out and protest they don't use any Nazi symbols, they don't go out and protest in nazi uniforms or wave the swastika. But they do use the Tiwaz_(rune) symbol as their logo. Or you can take the example of Golden_Dawn_(political_party) in Greece, their logo is very similar to the Swastika and the flag they use looks very similar to the Nazi flag. You don't have to openly say that you are a Neo-Nazi to be one if you have the same ideas as the NSDAP had in the 1930s you can be called a neo-nazi. I haven't read on SvP's political ideas since their website because they took it down. But I do know that they want a country where there is only one race. Witch is racist but not necessarily National Socialistic. I don't know what their position of Jews and the Sámi people are but I would think that it about the same as NMR. And also let's not forget the fact that the members of the National Socialist Front were the ones that started SvP. Sure you could argue that the Sweden Democrats also were stared by neo-nazis but that was back in 1988 and Since the leadership of Jimmie Åkesson, the party has changed a lot. Because I don't think that 1.3 million Neo-nazis voted for Sweden Democrats in 2018. SvP was stared the exact same day that National Socialist Front dissolved. Something that the Sweden Democrats didn't do because they got founded by former members of Bevara Sverige Svenskt (BSS) or Keep Sweden Swedish. And Bevara Sverige Svenskt dissolved in 1986 2 years before Sweden Democrats became a party, something that didn't happen with SvP. So in my eyes, they are Neo-Nazis. Even it their logo or banners don't look a lot like them, they are still Neo-Nazis to me. What Stefan Jacobsson was trying to do was to try to distance himself from the claims that SvP is a neo-nazi party. Even though he had been part of NMR at the time called SMR for Swedish Resistance Movement. So both Jacobsson and his predecessor Daniel Höglund were in my opinion neo-nazis. --Der under Smurf (talk) 21:46, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox changes

**current messed up version** of political party

can someone please make it look like the long term consensus original version of the Template:Infobox political party? Dannis243 (talk) 12:13, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Dannis243: Hey Dannis. Before we change anything, is there something wrong with the current version of the infobox? Nothing really jumps out to me as looking bad or malformed. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 12:19, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

i have show you a picture of the messed up version, the bars are too long apart from each other this is about the Template not the infobox

Jethro, I'm getting the same here. Bars aren't aligned properly with the text. Doesn't look very good...

Peter ^Isotalo 12:34, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Peter Isotalo and Dannis243: OK, let's just bring this to the template page since I misunderstood where the problem was initially. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 12:36, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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