Talk:Parliamentarian of the United States Senate

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Wording/grammar?

This parenthetical is awkward: "(including the Sargent and Arms will restore order in the gallery)." It should be re-worded.

I agree. I just noticed that myself. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 01:03, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

I removed the section "Reconciliation" because its content was entirely erroneous. The section stated that the Senate Parliamentarian's decisions during a reconciliation process can only overridden by a 60 vote super majority. This directly contradicted the following authoritative source: "The Office of the Parliamentarian in the House and Senate", published by the Congressional Research Service ( http://www.senate.gov/CRSReports/crs-publish.cfm?pid='0DP%2BPLO%3F%23P%20%20%0A ). This report states that the Senate Parliamentarian's decisions are only advisory. In addition, the authoritative source "The Senate's Byrd Rule Against Extraneous Matter in Reconciliation Measures", published by the Senate Budge Committee ( http://budget.senate.gov/democratic/crsbackground/byrdrule.html ) does not state that the Senate Parliamentarian has any special authority during a budge reconciliation process. Based on these two authoritative sources it is clear that during a budget reconciliation process in the Senate all motions are decided on by the presiding senator, and other senators present, who may seek advice from the Parliamentarian. The unelected Parliamentarian has no power whatsoever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.203.94.180 (talk) 14:49, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added back in a discussion of the parliamentarian's role in reconciliation. This comes up in the news when reconciliation is discussed, and the topic is clearly notable. I think the comment above is technically correct - the parliamentarian is advisory only, and the article now reflects this. But, the Senate almost always defers to the parliamentarian to referee regarding interpretation of the Senate rules, and I added a citation in the article that describes that the last time a parliamentarian ruling was disregarded was 1975. LaTeeDa (talk) 18:57, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The sentence, "In practice this is rare, and the most recent example of a Vice President (as President of the Senate) overruling the parliamentarian was Nelson Rockefeller in 1975," is ambiguous and potentially misleading. It strongly implies, but does not actually state, that no parliamentarian's ruling has been overturned since 1975. It agrees with your source, but the text above it says "the Presiding Officer" may overrule the parliamentarian. The Presiding Officer, however, may be the president pro tempore, or any junior senator they appoint in their place. Can you find a source that states definitively whether, in recent years, any Presiding Officer other than the Vice President has overturned a parliamentarian's ruling? ajad (talk) 21:05, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Contact Info

Is there contact information to reach to office of the Senate Parliamentarian (not the parliamentarian himself) to ask a question? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asherkobin (talk • contribs) 06:17, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- - Senate: 202-224-6128 (Senate procedural questions) - - House: 202-225-7373 (House procedural questions) Via https://www.llsdc.org/selected-telephone-numbers-and-web-sites Teddyg3892 (talk) 08:15, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Counting

This article uses a very odd convention of counting - 4a, 5a, 4b, 5b. That makes no intuitive sense.

The norm for any American political office is that when someone serves non consecutive terms, they appear twice in the count. Example, Grover Cleveland is the 22nd and 24th President. I suggest we update the count the same way, and list the current Parliamentarian as the 8th.

Nuclear option?

Did the VP not override the Parliamentarian when the Senate adopted the so-called "nuclear option" to eliminate the filibuster on judicial confirmations? Grover cleveland (talk) 18:18, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]