Talk:Pao Pienlert Boripanyutakit

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To editor Paul 012: It's not clear to me where http://archives.psd.ku.ac.th/kuout/p061.html comes from but it fails WP:RS. It's not published. I don't see any signs of editorial review. This isn't an academic paper; it's just junk hosted on a university server. Chris Troutman (talk) 12:40, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Chris troutman, no one ever claimed that it's an academic paper. It's being cited as a web page, which is published online as part of the University Archives' website, specifically ฐานข้อมูลบูรพาจารย์มหาวิทยาลัยเกษตรศาสตร์, or Database of Historical Personnel of Kasetsart University. This site is clearly under the editorial control of the Kasetsart University Archives. And it is certainly published. Something that is not published is not available to the public. (See WP:Published for an explanation.) --Paul_012 (talk) 13:35, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's online. I don't think it passes RS. Just because someone is hosting content online (especially some web archive) does not mean that the information contained therein is reliable or correct. Chris Troutman (talk) 13:44, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's quite a puzzling statement indeed, considering that 99.99 percent of Wikipedia's sources are online. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:02, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There's lots of content online. That doesn't make Facebook or GeoCities reliable sources. Chris Troutman (talk) 14:15, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nor does it make bbc.co.uk unreliable. So why again is Kasetsart University not a reliable source? --Paul_012 (talk) 14:35, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's not that the university as an institution is a problem. The webpage you want to use looks like some student's writings being hosted on the university server. For that reason, it fails WP:RS. If you disagree, you can take it to WP:RSN and ask them about it. Chris Troutman (talk) 14:42, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, will do. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:18, 15 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Chris troutman: You have to start from [1] which is homepage of Kasetsart University Archive. The last link of the main content is Database of University People produced in commemorative to 60th Anniversary of Kasetsart University [2]. And from the second link on the left, goes to President of the University Council page [3] where Pao Pienlert Boripanyutakit was one of them and it links to his biography page. It's university official page, not something a student created on university's server. --Lerdsuwa (talk) 11:02, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That Database of University People page [4] is also linked from the University's history page [5]. You can also go to http://www.ku.ac.th/ switch to English language (the flag on upper right), Choose About KU->History from menu, and then switch to Thai language to see the page. --Lerdsuwa (talk) 11:08, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Further discussuion is at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 238#Profiles of historical personnel from Kasetsart University website. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:58, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]