Talk:Panteón de San Fernando

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What is the common English name? Should article be at that title? Needs redirects from other versions. PamD 05:16, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@PamD: For now there is NO common English name. The use of the word panteón for cemetery is, as far as I know, peculiar to Mexican Spanish. I found some five (four) articles that I caused to link to Panteón de San Fernando because that it was already mentioned in those articles about historic Mexicans. This cased me to find es:Panteón de San Fernando. No other Wiki than the Spanish Wiki mentions this Cemetery. The two references that I provided were taken, copy and paste, from the Spanish Wiki and are both legit, UN CEMENTERIO RESGUARDADO POR ANGELES By copy and paste:
Para empezar, es el más antiguo en México que todavía funciona (emphasis mine), al remitirse su origen a la época virreinal, aun cuando el rango de cementerio lo obtuvo en el siglo XIX y el de panteón civil en los años 40 de la centuria pasada
With all due respect to your great erudition, this article is best left to those of us users who speak Spanish as a native or second language. Peter Horn User talk 22:03, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Peter Horn: Ref 1, with your quote above, refers to "Panteón del Tepeyac". If this is an alternative name for this one, please say so (and make a redirect). The word "Fernando" isn't in that reference. I looked at the reference because of the mismatch between title and lead, wondering which title the article should have. Less of the snarkiness, please. PamD 22:17, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@PamD: Interesting, I took the reference from es:Panteón de San Fernando in good faith. es:Panteón del Tepeyac is another cemetery. This means that I have to point out to my counterparts of the Spanish Wiki that they gave a wrong reference. I'll do so haste post haste on the talk page of es:Panteón de San Fernando. Peter Horn User talk 22:47, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done, Now I'll have to wait for an answer. Btw Benito Juárez and three others link to Panteón de San Fernando Peter Horn User talk 23:14, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@PamD: San Fernando Cemetery, which has two links to it, is a redirect to another cemetery completely. Peter Horn User talk 23:56, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Peter Horn: I've added a hatnote to the California article- should probably be a dab page to include one in Seville too, as the bullfighter buried there is wrongly linked .. needs a {{ill}}, will sort out when I'm on computer not phone. PamD 05:15, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done (while watching the London Marathon on the box.) Dab page created at San Fernando Cemetery: there are four of them. PamD 07:17, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

When translating it's good practice to check all the refs and verify that they support the content. We don't consider a wiki article to be a WP:RS, and it should perhaps be treated with caution rather than translated trustingly.Pam D 05:27, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@PamD: Your advice is valid and I thank you. I used Google translation and did some touching up. My wife and my in-laws are all Mexicans. For almost 51 years now my wife and I communicate and quarrel mostly in Spanish. I'm now reasonably familiar with Hispanic culture so that I can say that giving a wrong reference is something to be expected. By the wayJ found Pantheon#Buildings and I now realize that mmany Spanish language counties, including Spain, have a cemetary called panteon. I'll look at the rest of your comment about the hat notes later. Peter Horn User talk 16:55, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]