Talk:Outline of organic chemistry

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Please Preserve this page

I'm not saying that modifications here can't happen, but I want nearly everybody who touches this page to know the historical significance of this page. This is the original Organic textbook that was later turned into a VfD (now called AfD) where this content was subsequently moved to this current name. And this page has been transwikied (or forked, depending on how you look at it) to both Meta and subsequently to Wikibooks.... as the very first Wikibook.

That is the real significance here, as this is the foundation of Wikibooks, and this (together with its page history) an original source to view into the very early past of Wikibooks and find out what got the project started. In short, please don't delete this page, but move it to some protected historical spot... or do the cleanup necessary to make it part of the current Wikipedia. Do not, I repeat, do not delete this page and kill what is an essential historical document related to the foundations of Wikibooks as a project. --Robert Horning 08:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, this is a valuable structured list (outline)...

The page has been adopted by the Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge, and has become part of Wikipedia's Outline of knowledge, which serves as the main table of contents or site map to the encyclopedia. The Transhumanist 01:58, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Outline

This page is part of the hierarchical Portal:Contents/Outline of knowledge navigation system as explained above. I have reverted the page move to List of organic chemistry topics back to the long established Outline of organic chemistry and have added the removed outline templates back in. The move was not discussed and is highly controversial and provocative in light of the recent discussions about outlines. If you want to get rid of the outline system then you have to initiate a community-wide open and transparent debate instead of sabotaging the project on individual articles. Cacycle (talk) 13:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The move was a revert to the original name, and hence you have to justify the rename. I have undone your controversial move which is against policy. Please establish consensus for any rename, and establishing consensus for your templates etc, and outlines in general, would help. Verbal chat 13:17, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The original name was List of basic organic chemistry topics. Please move it back to there, if anywhere. (And if there was content at the old copy of List of organic chemistry topics, please also restore that. Those page title schemes are confusingly-similar, but they are separate). -- Quiddity (talk) 18:26, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see a problem with dropping the "basic". The article can then be expanded, and scope can be made clear in the article. Removing "basic" doesn't seem at all controversial. There was no content at the deleted article, just redirects. Verbal chat 17:48, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Outline of organic chemistry

This article was named "List of basic organic chemistry topics", and belonged to a set of pages that shared that naming convention and the same layout and organization format. That whole set was renamed to "Outline of" about 2 years ago. It got estranged from the set about a year later.

This page matches the rest of the outlines, and is listed as one of them on Portal:Contents. It is confusing that it has a non-matching name.

I'm returning it to the set.

The Transhumanist 00:29, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Quick explanation of Wikipedia outlines

"Outline" is short for "hierarchical outline". There are two types of outlines: sentence outlines (like those you made in school to plan a paper), and topic outlines (like the topical synopses that professors hand out at the beginning of a college course). Outlines on Wikipedia are primarily topic outlines that serve 2 main purposes: they provide taxonomical classification of subjects showing what topics belong to a subject and how they are related to each other (via their placement in the tree structure), and as subject-based tables of contents linked to topics in the encyclopedia. The hierarchy is maintained through the use of heading levels and indented bullets. See Wikipedia:Outlines for a more in-depth explanation. The Transhumanist 00:08, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]