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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the South American rice rat Oryzomys gorgasi is threatened by competition with the Black Rat?

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File:Oryzomys distribution S America.png isn't sourced and doesn't match with IUCN's map. It's also unclear which part of the world is displayed on that map. And it's a low quality PNG. A455bcd9 (talk) 10:51, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ucucha:, who would be the best to answer any concerns with this article. Hog Farm _Talk 22:50, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The map is based on the same sources as the articles on Oryzomys gorgasi and Oryzomys couesi, which provide detailed references and locality names.

I just checked the IUCN map. The difference is that they fill in the area between the records in Colombia and Venezuela, but they cite no reliable records to substantiate that.

I'll give you that the quality of the map is low. Ucucha (talk) 05:10, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For the area between Colombia and Venezuela, I understand that the IUCN says: "Locals report a mangrove rat between the two locations [Antoine: the sentence before refers to "the eastern coast of the gulf of Maracaibo in Venezuela at sea level" and "the type locality in Colombia"] but there are no voucher specimens (J. Ochoa pers. comm.)." Ochoa is the author of "Sánchez, J., Ochoa, J. G. and Voss, R. S. 2001. Rediscovery of Oryzomys gorgasi (Rodentia: Muridae), with notes on taxonomy and natural history. Mammalia 65: 205-214." but he's cited here as a personal comment. Still, I think that the IUCN is a reliable non-primary source so we can use it.

What do you think @Ucucha?

(in any case, could you please tell me what the exact sources for File:Oryzomys distribution S America.png are, so that I can add them on Commons?) a455bcd9 (Antoine) (talk) 07:36, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I saw that statement in the IUCN account but I would not consider it a reliable record. A "mangrove rat" could be lots of things; they would need actual specimens (or DNA or something) to establish that these rats are really Oryzomys gorgasi.

Sources are:

Hershkovitz, P. (1971). "A New Rice Rat of the Oryzomys palustris Group (Cricetinae, Muridae) from Northwestern Colombia, with Remarks on Distribution". Journal of Mammalogy. 52 (4): 700–709. doi:10.2307/1378917. JSTOR 1378917. (for the Colombian record of gorgasi)
Sánchez H., J.; Ochoa G., J.; Voss, R.S. (2001). "Rediscovery of Oryzomys gorgasi (Rodentia: Muridae). With Notes on Taxonomy and Natural History". Mammalia. 65 (2): 205–214. doi:10.1515/mamm.2001.65.2.205. S2CID 85316706. (for the Venezuelan record of gorgasi)
Voss, R.S.; Weksler, M.W. (2009). "On the taxonomic status of Oryzomys curasoae McFarlane and Debrot, 2001, (Rodentia: Cricetidae: Sigmodontinae) with remarks on the phylogenetic relationships of O. gorgasi Hershkovitz, 1971". Caribbean Journal of Science. 45 (1): 73–79. doi:10.18475/cjos.v45i1.a11. S2CID 87520473. (for the Curaçao record)
Hershkovitz, P. 1987. First South American record of Coues' marsh rice rat, Oryzomys couesi. Journal of Mammalogy 68(1):152–154. (subscription required) (for the Colombian record of Oryzomys couesi)

Ucucha (talk) 14:43, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I added them to Commons: File:Oryzomys distribution S America.png. Problem solved then. a455bcd9 (Antoine) (talk) 15:53, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]