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casualties

the casualties were mixed up. the allied 23.000 were for the first canadian army. and the 90.000 german were inflicted by the first canadian and ninth us... "During the whole period from the beginning of "VERITABLE" until the German withdrawal east of the Rhine, First Canadian Army captured 22,239 prisoners, and our Intelligence estimated the enemy's loss in killed and "long-term wounded" at 22,000. On the Ninth U.S. Army's front the parallel figures were 29,739 prisoners and 16,000 other casualties. Thus the two armies' converging operations had cost the Germans, according to our best figures, approximately 90,000 men" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.192.127.100 (talk) 03:20, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Commanders

Deleted Monty from the commanders' list. I know that he was Army Group commander but I doubt that he had a direct influence on battle. Crerar as Army Commander and Horrocks as the man actually in local command are sufficient (some would say that Crerar had been edged out and should also be deleted). Otherwise, every allied action could quote commanders up to Army Group and perhaps even Eisenhower (and Marshall and Brooke!?), with parallel bloating on the opposing side. Folks at 137 (talk) 09:09, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Useful Reference?

There is a 4-part 1980's British Army documentary on Operation Veritable "Battle for The Rhineland" with Robert Powell narrating here: [1]

Interesting, but production credits are unclear and referencing video is cumbersome in relation to text.

Traffic jam

"greatest traffic jam in the history of modern warfare" - This was in 1940 when German troops fought against Sedan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.248.251.207 (talk) 07:52, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Terrible article

Surprisingly terrible article, even by Wikipedia's standards, on a major and decisive Allied offensive. 43rd Wessex Division's successful advance to Goch isn't even there. And the stuff about the flooding of the Roer valley, because the Americans didn't capture the controlling dam in time, is mentioned without any suggestion of its relevance -- it was well south of the Veritable area, but it meant that Operation Grenade by US Ninth Army, which was supposed to support Veritable and kick off two days later, was postponed by two weeks because the Ninth couldn't cross till the floodwaters subsided, leaving the British and Canadians to do all the work. When Grenade did belatedly launch, it encountered minimal losses against not many enemy, and was useful in terms of manoeuvre, but the actual fighting and reduction of opposition had already been done further north. Khamba Tendal (talk) 18:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]