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Commercial site?

I have removed a link in the article inserted by an anon editor to what appears to be a commercial catalogue for unauthorised recordings. Jack1956 (talk) 11:34, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Hall controversy

Added a ref to the following national media news story: http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/2011/jul/03/lee-hall-opera-north

Was told this "appears to carry a non-neutral point of view". Reporting a media story about the subject, without commentary, as I did, strikes me as about as neutral as it could get and I'm rather surprised that my effort to contribute was removed. I might add that the list of ON's awards and premieres in the article as it stands, without any coverage of any negative reviews or commentary, would seem a far greater violation of the neutrality principle. The text has pretty clearly been added by their PR department.

Propose to reinstate section:

Controversy

In July 2011 Opera North withdrew funding from an opera they commissioned when the writer, Lee Hall, refused to remove a gay character from the storyline. ^[1]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ubu reine (talk • contribs) 23:37, 3 July 2011

I thought the material was neutrally worded, albeit referenced to an article written entirely by Lee Hall himself. I have re-added and slightly expanded the material, incorporating it into the first prose paragraph of the Repertory section where the 2011 rep is discussed. I did not put it into a separate section entitled Controversy as this gives unwarranted and undue weight to the event in the overall context of the article. I agree that the article could use more detail on the highlights and "lowlights" in each period and reference those productions to reviews. Voceditenore (talk) 06:04, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note, I have also replaced the reference with a more neutral article by the arts correspondent of The Guardian which appeared today. Voceditenore (talk) 06:25, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Incidentally, on reading today's Guardian article, it's not accurate to say that Opera North withdrew funding. They withdrew the opera because the primary school which was to have supplied the 300 children (who were crucial to the production) refused to participate unless the changes were made and Hall has refused (so far) to make the changes. Also the changes requested by the school were not to remove the character they were to reword some of the language he used to describe himself. The wording which I have used reflects this. Voceditenore (talk) 08:11, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Update It appears the opera will go ahead now after negotiations between Lee Hall, the primary school, and Opera North. I've updated and referenced the article accordingly. All a bit of a tempest in a teapot, frankly. Voceditenore (talk) 19:08, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

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Interregnums/interregna

Yesterday an IP changed "interregnums" to "interregna", claiming that the latter is the correct plural. The change was reverted with a suggestion that a discussion here might be appropriate.

The Wikipedia article interregnum gives both plurals. Since this is the English-language Wikipedia and not Latin Wikipedia, it seems to me that "interregnums" is the normal English usage. Does anyone talk of "stadia" instead of "stadiums"? --GuillaumeTell 11:09, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm ashamed to admit that I use stadia. And concerti :-s almost-instinct 11:39, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. It was I who changed it back, having looked at several sources. I felt that if both forms are valid then there was no need for a change, and I have a slight leaning towards GuillaumeTell's point, that we do not have to observe "correct" Latin usage in words that have been thoroughly adopted into English. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 11:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And let's not get on to "referenda"... I wonder how many people realise that agenda is plural? Not Tom Lehrer, who sang "We'll just drop our agendas and adjourn". Must dig out my copy of Fowler. --GuillaumeTell 15:06, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just remembered: Tom Lehrer uses stadia in the introduction to (I think) "Fight Fiercely Harvard" :-) almost-instinct 12:33, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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