Talk:OneRepublic/Archive 1

Archive 1

"Experimental" genre

I wanted to write a little more deeply about why I changed the band's genre from "experimental rock" to "experimental pop," as I realize genres these days can seem a bit subjective. My reasoning is, most simply, that OneRepublic makes pop music. They dabbled in some experimental rock in their earliest days, but by the time Dreaming Out Loud was released that had mostly ended. Ryan Tedder stated on the Waking Up making of documentary, as well as various other interviews, that the band knows it is a radio-driven pop act and embraces that, while still trying to maintain a sense of artful creativity (such as the experimental structure of Missing Persons 1 & 2, the 3 minute orchestral arrangement of Waking Up, and so on). So although "experimental pop" is not a very widely used term (one could argue the two terms contradict each other on some levels), I feel it is the best way to describe where the band is at this time. Experimental rock is more your Muse, Radiohead, and Porcupine Tree type stuff. OneRepublic is not that "out there." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sodhipop21 (talk • contribs) 21:32, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Live Covers

I'm going to add a list of all cover songs OneRepublic has done live and what tour/performance it was at. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SODHIPOP (talk • contribs) 23:28, 16 May 2010 (UTC) OMG I ABSOLUTELY LOVE LOVE LOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ONEEEEEEEEEE REPUBLICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.214.101.181 (talk) 23:06, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Almost certainly any such list will be deleted. Bands cover songs originally perfomed by other artists all the time. You need to establish why any such covers are notable. Skinsmoke (talk) 01:37, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

PBS Soundstage

They did a concert for PBS' Soundstage. I think it should be mentioned. http://www.pbs.org/wttw/soundstage/onerepublic/bio.html KannD86 (talk) 15:25, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Smallville Appearance

The band is slated to appear in a 2008 episode of Smallville. I have no information on exactly which episode they will appear or what context but I do know for a stated fact that they will appear as we just finished filming them today in Vancouver BC --Venixer (talk) 06:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

There are strong indications (from various CW released images) that the band will play in the seventh season episode 13 "Hero" which is due to air sometime in March 2008. [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vortex8472 (talk • contribs) 19:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Ryan Tedder

Should Ryan Tedder have his own article since he has a career in record producing? — AnemoneProjectors (会話) 00:53, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I was thinking the same thing and was trying to figure out how to stop it from redirecting his link back to the OneRepublic page. Any help? JMlover 17:21, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

If you want to start the article, just edit this page. — AnemoneProjectors (会話) 18:16, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I started a short article, so it no longer redirects. Feel free to expand on it. — AnemoneProjectors (会話) 15:46, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

official website

i put up a link to their official website :) Merlin5793 (talk) 22:04, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Fifth Single?

Before the album release, on their MySpace, there were five songs: "Apologize REMIX", "Apologize", "Stop & Stare", "Mercy" and I believe "Goodbye Apathy" was the fifth. Is it going to be a single or was it just on their page for no particular reason? I know, it's not their anymore, and neither is "Mercy", but I'm still confused. JazzlineB (talk) 16:40, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

"Apologize" is written by Timberlake, not? - 165.21.154.9 (talk) 02:15, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

As in Justin? ^anemone│_projectors 20:18, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I think they meant Timbaland, but no, it's written by Ryan Tedder from One Republic Source

Yesitsraining (talk) 19:01, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Cello player

Who is the cello player playing an electric cello with the band on Last Call with Carson Daly on December 5, 2007? Badagnani (talk) 07:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Brent Kutzle. Badagnani (talk) 07:06, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

He's also the bassist. JazzlineB (talk) 16:13, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

The cello is not an electric cello. Depending on what venue he plays in, it's either a wood cello or a carbon fiber cello(black) but both use a string pick up attachment. 1RDad —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkutzle (talk • contribs) 20:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Protect

This page should be protected, as people are adding nonconstructive content to it, so as in the members section, people are making up names and then putting them in the article. JazzlineB (talk) 16:13, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Discography

I like the discography but the information is redundant, the album information should be integrated into the respective album or single pages, or the information below. Snowfreak91287 (talk) 04:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Appearances

This section is hella jumbled. The entries aren't even in chronological order, and really ought to be divided up into TV appearances and album guest appearances - they aren't even close to being the same thing. 68.229.184.37 (talk) 06:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I have removed this section. No other band articles that I've seen (at least featured articles and good articles) have such a section. Somno (talk) 02:28, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Genre

Do not mistake the band for contemporary R&B for their popular attachment to Timbaland and 'Apologize'. Apologize isn't even R&B. It's been classified by Billboard as Adult Contemporary.

The band's genre is Alt-Rock or even Pop-rock but never R&B. The band integrates Hip Hop drum patterns in a couple of songs but that is not enough to make them R&B. UnkEdit (talk) 05:04, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Yet Apologize got some airplay on Rhytmic stations 68.89.165.19 (talk) 01:41, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

They also got airplay on christian radio stations. Apologize isn't in the Christian genre either. :) UnkEdit (talk) 07:58, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

They didn't, prove it to me 68.89.165.19 (talk) 21:13, 4 May 2008 (UTC

You prove to me that apologize got airplay on rhythmic stations first. regardless, this is going nowhere. the band isn't R&B. apologize could be but the band definitely isnt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by UnkEdit (talk • contribs) 04:51, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

There seems to be some warring as to the genre on this article and two album pages. And considering I unfortunately at first neglected to distinguish vandalism from such, certain edits were undone to preserve the accuracy of the article based on noted sources. --Limxzero (talk) 21:01, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Critics

"They are a very polarizing band in terms of critics..."

I'm questioning that line. So far there are only like 2 album reviews that have rated them 2 out of 5 stars or lower (out of 13 reviews). [refer to 'Dreaming Out Loud' article]

So I'm changing it to "The band has generally gained favor from the critics" or something like that UnkEdit (talk) 15:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Edit Summary 14 May 2008 [5:31]

Reverting to previous edits. -Although some of the edits CaptainAmazin maybe considered valid, it was obviously done maliciously. However valid some of those edits might be, they were not done in 'good faith'.

-Keane is fronted by Tom Chaplin, who, although is mainly the vocalist, also plays the keyboards [see his biography]. Which makes him a keyboardist nonetheless. he plays the keyboard in a significant number of their songs. He is as much of a keyboardist as he is a vocalist and a guitarist.

-Siting a school paper publication as a reference is basically equal to siting a personal blog as a reference. A music review by a teenager on an encyclopedic article, get what i mean?

-mega-hit, there is such a thing. look it up. UnkEdit (talk) 05:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

-I can't see how your definition of 'good faith' could possibly be relevant when clearly the point is to maintain neutrality, which I am perfectly entitled, supposedly encouraged, to do. The current article is just plain POV without references in parts. If you have some sort of dispute with the edits I make, try so see why they were made in the first place before clicking 'undo'.

-Keane's keyboardist is Tim Rice-Oxley, he plays keyboard on just about every song, whereas Chaplin plays on only a handful, but sings on almost every song. See the distinction? Regardless, he is certainly more a vocalist than guitarist or keyboardist, it's misleading to imply that Keane are 'fronted by a keyboardist' in the same vein that Coldplay etc. are. The edit I wanted to make was to the phrasing of this section anyway. The way it is pure speculation. 'mostly because' needs to be changed, even if you're intent on stating that Keane are fronted by a keyboardist.

-I notice that there is already a school paper publication (BIOLA University) on the reference list. Shouldn't this be disregarded? —Preceding unsigned comment added by CaptainAmazin (talk • contribs) 10:59, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Former band members

I noticed that somebody keeps removing the former band members section of the page, I haven't gone through all the edits so I'm not sure if it's always a user or an IP so I'm just addressing this generally. I'm not quite sure why it is being removed from the article as there is precedence for them being in the articles themselves (see Featured articles such as Alice in Chains and AC/DC). I know an edit summary stated that it's in the infobox but the purpose of the infobox is to quickly sum up the contents of the article itself, not be a substitute for content within the article. Since one of the concerns seems to be that putting the former members in the same section (though under a different heading) as the current is weird I propose that it is added to the article in a different format (see Aerosmith: Header= Band members, subheader 1=Current members, subheader 2=Former members) so it is more defined yet still has the former members within the article. Also a comment was made that there were like 5 other former members of the band, those should be included in the article as well. Discussion? --ImmortalGoddezz (t/c) 19:29, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

guilty as charged, also with a few others. i like your idea. but i guarantee, it will be removed again, not by me but by um...someone else :D

there are around 5 other former band members, it's only tim myers that has a wiki page tho and has claimed to be in the band, (and a few other things too). The band has mentioned the number of former members they had but never their names. UnkEdit (talk) 07:18, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

People who remove the info need to be warned and the info restored as there is really no reason to remove the information. The only acceptable reason to remove the information would be if the information isn't true, adding a citation to the information would help verify these claims. Also if the other former members can't be named then they don't need to be added. --ImmortalGoddezz (t/c) 14:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

History

i think the Mainstream breakthrough: 2007—present part is already filling up.

their should be a separate section for touring. UnkEdit (talk) 11:56, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

New album - Confirmed tracks.

"All The Right Moves" and "The Other Side."

http://thomascrownchronicles.blogspot.com/2008/11/one-republic-start-2nd-album.html

Neutrality/Formality

I'm a ardent Wikipedian who likes to surf through this site's artist pages. With no criticism whatsoever for the article and content that is reminiscient of a fanboy (including little tidbits like in the "Covers" section and unnecessarily irrelevant content in "Musical style"...) I'm a little concerned for this particular article. It definitely doesn't look neutral; maybe the article's lack of a formal style and excessive one/two-sentence paragraphs are to blame. --PenaltyKillah^Jw21 10:01, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I tried to make it look a little more neutral.Solino_{the Wolf} 10:52, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Solino, Jw21's comment is from December 2008. There have been about 100 edits to the article since then, and it's due to the work of those editors (including Jw21 and excluding myself) that the article's previous neutrality problems were largely eliminated. The small issues that do still exist are within the prose, so if you'd like to help improve the article's neutrality, working on the prose would be more helpful than moving a section. :) Somno (talk) 12:13, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok.I dont get the problem with the prose but I tried to work on it.I dont know if it helped or not.Solino_{the Wolf} 23:30, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Critical Reception

Why is there a section regarding Dreaming Out Loud's critical reception on this page??? Not only is it irrelevant, it is unnecessary. Reception to the album should be on the album's page. Otherwise, the only place reviews are fine is in the section regarding the album - in this case, the reviews of Dreaming Out Loud should be merged into the section dealing with Dreaming Out Loud. It should'nt have a separate section. Steed Asprey - 171 (talk) 14:03, 26 April 2010 (UTC)