Talk:Omafiets

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Dutch bicycle?

Although I am from the Netherlands, I honestly never heard off such object like a Dutch bicycle Could someone explain it to me? Waldo79 (talk) 10:23, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's a bike similar to the english roadster but made in the Netherlands, (the clasical bike designed at the turn of the century), with the most noticeable difference – in some of them, but not all – in the design of the rear luggage carrier (rack), the dutch being round ended with a capacity for carrying a lighter load, not available in the brit model, while a somewhat more robust – and able to carry a person – rack is available on both.

They are also called utility bicycles, European city bikes and even the three-speed bicycles enters this territory. Why do they keep them separate, have no idea ∞ Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 02:48, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've also never heard of a "Dutch bicycle" and question if it is a valid term. Perhaps it may be used colloquial way to bring to mind a Utility bicycle, but does it really deserve an article all of it's own? --Keithonearth (talk) 04:55, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it should be changed to Dutch bicycle industry. Just added an external link with history ∞ Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 17:52, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I like to think of bicycles of this variety as "Anne Frank bicycles", on the grounds that she probably rode one of those. — Rickyrab | Talk 06:40, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The 'omafiets' (or in English: grandmother's bicycle) should be classified as a separate bicycle category. The original Dutch article is called 'omafiets', the English translation of 'omafiets' is not 'Dutch bicycle'. The 'omafiets' should be treated similar to the mountain bike or the cruiser bike based on it's combination of frame type, handlebar and brake and gear system. The 'omafiets', 'omafiets' and the 'bakfiets' are currently most often seen on streets in the Netherlands. Therefore these bicycles are often referred to as 'Dutch Bicycles'. A Dutch bicycle is not one type of bicycle on its own. An article about Dutch bicycles should only refer to a page about the 'omafiets', 'opafiets' or the 'bakfiets' or a page about the Dutch bicycle culture in general. I suggest that this article should only refer to bicycles that are considered as typical Dutch meaning that they have a long history of usage in the Netherlands and are still often seen on streets in the Netherlands. And I suggest a new article about the 'omafiets' and a separate new article for the 'opafiets'. And to direct the 'bakfiets' to the bakfiets article that already exists. Cutedutchbiker (talk) 14:11, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disputed

Looking from a Dutch perspective, this article contains multiple inaccuracies:

the "omafiets" is not the most popular type of bicycle in the Netherlands.
the omafiets always has a loop-frame. There is no gents version.
the omafiets always has a back pedal brake.
the omafiets never has a hub gear.
the omafiets has standard sized wheels.
and the list goes on.....

The bicycle showed on image actually is generally called stadsfiets (city bicycle) in Dutch.

Regarding the sentence Outside the Netherlands (for example in Italy) "Dutch Bicycle" is used with even less precision, regarding the given description isn't even accurate for the Netherlands in the first place, regarding remarks of other users on this pages, this article should be completely revised or just delete it alltogether.Quarconi (talk) 10:33, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've been dubious of the accuracy of this article for some time, and overall it seems amateurish. Unfortunately I am not very knowledgeable about so called "Dutch bikes" so don't feel like I'm able to improve the article much at all. I'd be only be too happy for Quarconi to do it, or would not be opposed to see this article deleted, or merged into another article like European city bike (though that article has many of it's own issues). --Keithonearth (talk) 18:57, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I seem to remember this bicycle being known as a "clunker" MalcolmMcDonald (talk) 20:56, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

tire size

The article states that Omafiets have 28 inch or 711.2 mm tires. This is an understandable mistake. 28 inches is the name of a tire size it's not the measurement of the tires, so translating the size directly to mm dose not give us valid number. [more info]. There are two sizes that are both named 28 inch, as it is the ISO 635 that is used on these bikes I'm changing the article to state that.--Keithonearth (talk) 22:10, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]