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A fact from Olena Stepaniv appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 April 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that postcards were made of Olena Stepaniv (pictured) during the First World War, and in 1991 Lviv named a street after her?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Olena Stepaniv.

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 05:20, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Stepaniv was a Ukrainian Sich Rifleman

... that postcards were made of Olena Stepaniv (pictured) during the First World War, and in 1991, Lviv named a street after her? Source: "postcards", and "street named for her"
- Comment: Its a work in progress (since 3/3/22) - she seems to have been the first woman to be a Ukrainian Officer and 1 of three said to be the first women to serve with equality in a 20th century army

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 15:00, 5 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Sufficiently long, sourced, and neutral article. No copyvios detected. Interesting hook with reliable sources. However, I suggest specifying who is the "they" in the second part. TeenAngels1234 (talk) 20:50, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @TeenAngels1234: I decided Lviv was "they" and I added the missing QPQ. Victuallers (talk) 17:55, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@TeenAngels1234: Can you look again? I see you state NA for picfree when there is an image and AGF for the sourcing when you have noted the "reliable sources". If you are happy then you need to add ((subst:DYKtick)) to say you are but replacing my normal brackets with curly brackets. Victuallers (talk) 10:06, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Victuallers: Yeah. Sorry, by bad. I'm not into DYN, sorry. Hope it works now.TeenAngels1234 (talk) 20:59, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Victuallers and TeenAngels1234:

looks like has this article gone some heavy editing since this nomination was finalized; I see a large, unsourced paragraph and a lot of added language I'm not quite comfortable with. Can this be hammered out and re-ticked? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 03:29, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It has been updated, and it looks fine to me now.--TeenAngels1234 (talk) 14:13, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Another Poor Quality Article Hits the Front Page

This article is full of strange wording and POV. She was sent to a labor camp simply for being patriotic and not for among other things organizing an anti-Bolshevik revolt?

"She was remarkable, but she was not the first woman to fight as Olena noted that she held Polish women soldiers as role models. It is possible to buy fictionalized versions of her life" - What is that supposed to even mean?

Not to mention various unreferenced sections, citations leading to blogs, WWI era newspapers and other sources of questionable validity.--Catlemur (talk) 20:36, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree some of the wording is very strange. I've hacked some of the worst material out but further editing is needed by someone who can read the sources. Espresso Addict (talk) 21:15, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]