Talk:Oleksandr Yaroslavskyi

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Things That Make You Go Hmmm...

But to much photo's and words of praise to make this a balanced wikipedia article... Anybody mind if I do some repair work?
— Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 20:02, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

I just made a start... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 20:30, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

He is a Russian citizen of Ukrainian decent living in Ukraine????

I am puzled by this edit today. In the English speaking world "nationality" stand for "citizenship". He was not even born in the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic why would he even consider being a Russian citizen???? — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:10, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

It is a personal issue. A lot of people in Ukraine were born into mixed marriages. Nationality is more ethnical and cultural concept. It is a set of mind and realization of your roots. It partially depends on the environment your were brought up, which in this case is a product of the total Russification of Ukraine. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 19:22, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

The WP:OPENPARA represents the nationality, which is most commonly the citizenship. However, in some complicated cases (e.g. countries that have ceased to exist) it is not that simple. The first question remains, what citizenship does he hold? --Jaan Pärn (talk) 19:37, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Yep, the first question is still open.... WP:OPENPARA states: Ethnicity or sexuality should not generally be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability; Yaroslavsky is not known for doing anything for Russians/Russian language or culture in or outside Ukraine.... (unless I missed something) if he has no Russian citizenship any Russian ethnicity is thus not relevant enough to be in the lead. I have no idea how Russified this man is anyhow (unless somebody comes up with sources this is all WP:speculation), in Dublin everybody speaks English but that does not mean they are all Englified (in the meaning they renounced the Irish culture). Btw are we going to call the Ukrainian President Russian soon? That would be very confusing for people from Austria ... (‘’Gretl did you know that Ukraine is not a country because Wikipedia says its President is a Russian and thus it must be a part of Russia!’’). — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 20:13, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Well, Viktor Yanukovych does poorly speaks in the Ukrainian language and promotes establishment of the Russian language as the state language. You brought up an example with Dublin that everyone there speaks English. That at least among some is perceived as a post-colonial effect. In relation to Yaroslavsky, some people has certain type of resentment towards people as Yaroslavsky who are of ethnicity of the neighboring country. Why is that? Because what triggered the 2008 South Ocetian conflict was "protection" by Russia of its citizens and invasion of foreign country without official announcement of war. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 06:56, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

I have translated the ITAR-TASS interview where he has supposedly claimed "the establishment of the Russian language as the state language" but I can not read that into it; he might has well mean (and I think he does) that Ukraine will soon differently use the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages... (i.o.w. (per example) you might soon able to fill in Government forms in Russian in Luhansk).
— Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 19:43, 20 March 2012 (UTC)