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Transnitria

What's wrong with noting that Transnistria isn't just a regular subdivision of Moldova? This is an accepted practice on Wikipedia, cf. Rauf Denktaş. We can also use some variation of the Abkhazia note

The political status of Abkhazia is disputed. Having unilaterally declared independence from Georgia in 1992, Abkhazia is formally recognised as an independent state by 5 UN member states (two other states previously recognised it but then withdrew their recognition), while the remainder of the international community recognizes it as de jure Georgian territory. Georgia continues to claim the area as its own territory, designating it as Russian-occupied territory.

Alaexis_¿question? 09:27, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I really think we shouldn't waste much time into this. Transnistria is not a legitimate or internationally recognized entity and to potray someone as having died simply in Transnistria is not neutral and leaves the larger political picture out. I don't really plan on making concessions here because I don't see any other acceptable alternative nor why should the current version be changed. It is true "Transnistria" is not any subdivision in Moldova however Transnistria is in Moldova. I don't know about other cases but I've seen Moldova taking relevance in Transnistria-related topics. See Bender, Moldova, not titled Bender, Transnistria.

And frankly I don't think "Northern Cyprus" should be noted as the place of death in the first example listed above. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 10:38, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you're in a position to make concessions here. Alaexis_¿question? 19:21, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Very well, let's tone down. Reading my comment I may not have used the most courteous wording, I apologize for that.

I have tried to find a standard at Category:Transnistrian politicians; we only have articles for three other deceased Transnistrian politicians and only one of them has his place of death in the infobox: Andrey Manoylov, marked as Tiraspol, Transnistria (de facto)/Moldova (de jure). Quite clumsly though it does follow this slash version. It is a point in favor of your version but considering one single article used it prior to yesterday I'd hardly say there is a standard for Transnistria.

I propose to call for a third opinion (WP:3O). What do you say, Alaexis? Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 21:05, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apology accepted, happened to me too,

I'm fine with asking for a third opinion. We could also start with raising this issue at the talk of the Transnistria article which is watched by many more people. Alaexis_¿question? 18:34, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]