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Do Russia, Ukraine, and China qualify as Old World wine producers? Their winemaking industries are not as old as Mexico or Chile, although in Crimea wine has been made for many centuries. --Ghirla^-трёп- 23:05, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Specifying wine

The sentence "This is because Old World winemakers believe that the unique terroir-driven characteristics of where a wine comes from plays a more distinct role in shaping the resulting wine than the grape variety itself." in chapter Influences is backed by a citation, but most certainly wrong: The reason for labeling by terroir probably is, that labeling wine by terroir is more specific than labeling by grape variety. Stronger even, generally a certain grape variety is implicated by terroir. In texts describing the terroir-labeled wine - most prominently the ones on the bottles -, grape variety is generally referenced as primary attribute. Tomdo08 (talk) 12:37, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Nordics aren't "regions with a long history of viticulture"

Denmark, Norway and Finland were included in the list of Old World wine, i.e. "regions with a long history of viticulture". I've removed them, and I'd suggest anyone wanting to include them would need very good references for inclusion. The linked article about Danish wine literally says "Denmark has been fostering a developing wine industry since the late 20th century", i.e. a few decades, much shorter than the "New World wines". The source given for the "Old World" wine regions doesn't mention them.

I suspect this might stem from the slightly confusing fact that Old World and Old World wine are not geographically identical: Not every place included in the Old World concept which produces wine in 2025 is included in Old World wine. A good illustration would be South Africa: Part of the Old World concept, but since it's newer as an imporant wine producer, one of the core countries in the New World wine concept. /Julle (talk) 22:38, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]