Talk:Oise-Aisne American Cemetery Plot E

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Added a phrase

Added "an American military cemetery in northern France" to first sentence because WHY MAKE THE READER LEAVE THE ARTICLE TO FIND OUT WHERE IT IS? Anticipate and answer questions, don't add them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.41.7.58 (talk) 12:44, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

98 - 96

98 were executed, 96 buried here, 2 re-interred in US, 94 remain buried here. Where are the other 2 buried? Irish Melkite (talk) 06:46, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Found an answer to one of the two. The remains of one David Cobb were repatriated to Dothan, Alabama (due to an administrative error) when bodies from HMP Shepton were exhumed and transferred to Plot E - that's per the Wiki article on HMP Shepton. Irish Melkite (talk) 07:00, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The other would have to be Eddie Slovik then. This is a useful resource, but I think it should be expanded with a description of the individual offences listed in the table. — Muckapedia (talk) 3^e nov. 2014 14h07 (−4h)

No, Eddie Slovik is accounted for. I believe I've identified the other who is not buried in Plot E. From the article on Shepton Mallet: -- Private Harold A. Smith, a native of Troup County, Georgia, was hanged on 25 June 1943 by Thomas Pierrepoint and Albert Pierrepoint. He was convicted by a court martial at Bristol for fatally shooting Private Henry Jenkins of the 116th Infantry at Chisledon Camp, near Swindon in Wiltshire on 9 January 1943. -- There's no "Smith, Harold A." in the list of those buried in Plot E. That said, I have no idea where his remains ended up. Rontrigger (talk) 08:43, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Private Alex F. Miranda

"Private Alex F. Miranda, 39297382, was buried in Row 2 Grave 27 until his remains were returned to the United States in 1990" The source states it is likely the grave in the united states is a marker and not an actual grave, where is the evidence Miranda was repatriated? On who's authority and why? ^[1] 68.100.235.197 (talk) 07:23, 23 April 2015 (UTC)PrinceVildon[reply]

References

^ http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Miranda&GSfn=Alex&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=9578901&df=all&

Intro paragraph

"Their victims were 26 fellow American soldiers (all murdered) and 71 British, French, German, Italian, Polish and Algerian civilians (both male and female) who were raped or murdered." - This seems very poorly written. 66.37.42.2 (talk) 12:53, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

All were not murderers and executed.

In the lead section it indicates that ALL buried there were murders and were executed. This is patently not true.

The following indicates that one died in custody serving 5 years for sodomy. Another was sentenced to life and died during a disturbance. The third one may have been transfer there by mistake in place of another. Further research really needed on that last one (Lucas).

Willie Hall 1944 Casablanca, French Morocco, Mediterranean Theater of Operations ** **DD
William N. Lucas European Theater? **
Joseph J. Mahoney 1943 Algiers, Mediterranean Theater of Operations ** **DC

- ** - Remains transferred to Plot E in 1949. - **E - Remains exhumed from Plot E and returned to the United States. - **DD - Died during disturbance after being sentenced to life for murder.[7] - **DC - Died in custody after being sentenced to five years for sodomy of a 13 year boy in Sicily.[7]

See: Capital punishment by the United States military#Executions during World War II and postwar bottom of table.

This article needs a bit of work and is mostly duplicate of other material. Jrcrin001 (talk) 03:32, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bordering road has interesting name

If one examines the Satellite map by Google maps of the co-ordinates given (lat. 49°12'12.7"N, long. 3°32'49.6"E) and zooms in, one discovers the path bordering Plot E (the 'dishonored dead') is known in French as "Ru[e] du Pont Brûlé"; being translated, "Burned bridge road". 122.61.236.242 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:56, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Obvious racism in the court marshall system

Shouldn't it be critically noted, that only 14 Persons of 98 convicted and executed in Plot E are explicitly identified as white / caucasian and the rest is of color or native american? This seems rampantly racist in the justice system of the US Army. 46.5.218.187 (talk) 23:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Miranda&GSfn=Alex&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=9578901&df=all&

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