Talk:Oil in Turkey

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Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
July 10, 2023	Good article nominee	Listed
January 15, 2024	Good topic candidate	Not promoted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on November 1, 2023.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Batman has extra heavy crude?

Current status: Good article

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Tone?

Hello @GuardianH

Thanks for your interest in a subject not many are interested in.

Could you please detail the problems about the tone so I can fix them. Thanks Chidgk1 (talk) 12:11, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Have removed tag - please put back if you have details. By the way the article is in queue for copyedit. Chidgk1 (talk) 06:54, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Barrels or tonnes

Need to standardize Chidgk1 (talk) 06:55, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. DimensionalFusion (talk) 14:37, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Oil in Turkey/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: DimensionalFusion (talk · contribs) 19:17, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

The prose is clear and concise, easily conveying the importance of oil and impacts of oil in turkey

b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

The article complies with MoS
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a. (reference section):

All citations are verifiable

b. (citations to reliable sources):

Inline citations correctly point to each source and back up the accompanying claims

c. (OR):

All claims are backed up by non-original sources

d. (copyvio and plagiarism):

No copyright infringements seen
It is broad in its coverage.
a. (major aspects):

The article covers a variety of aspects relating to the topic

@DimensionalFusion: Have added a bit - if more needed please let me know Chidgk1 (talk) 18:57, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's great. Thanks DimensionalFusion (talk) 20:03, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

b. (focused):

The article does not go into unnecessary detail on each aspect.
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:

No opinions are given undue weight within the article
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:

No edit warring as far as I can see
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

Pictures are used to illustrate releveant points in the article

b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

Media are relevant to the point being discussed in the article
Overall:
Pass/fail:

Article is broad in converage, and I belive it meets GA requirements

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet talk 02:51, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Article history

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... that some oil in Turkey comes from Russia, and Turkey sends diesel to the EU? Source: https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2023/06/29/how-russia-dodges-diesel-sanctions
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kharayeb
- Comment: Am I allowed to reuse this QPQ if Template:Did you know nominations/Climate change in Puerto Rico is rejected? If not let me know and I will do a new one.

Improved to Good Article status by Chidgk1 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:57, 10 July 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Oil in Turkey; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Comment: @Chidgk1: you need to review one nomination for every article you nominate‍, so you do need to do another QPQ for this nomination. Template:Did you know nominations/Climate change in Puerto Rico was reviewed and then rereviewed, so there is no reason to not count it as a nomination. TSventon (talk) 16:35, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OK will doChidgk1 (talk) 08:39, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Have replaced QPQ - please could someone review Chidgk1 (talk) 15:04, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:58, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting: - n

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Chidgk1: Good article, but i'm not exactly a fan of the hook. Could a better one be made? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Onegreatjoke (talk • contribs) 20:25, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that Batman has extra heavy? Source: https://www.eia.gov/international/analysis/country/TUR page 3 ...Türkiye’s proved oil reserves, which are primarily located in the southeastern provinces of Batman ... https://merip.org/2020/10/the-unintended-consequences-of-turkeys-quest-for-oil/ "The petroleum was very heavy" Chidgk1 (talk) 15:35, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Chidgk1: Maybe expand on the extra heavy because just saying Extra Heavy makes no sense. Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:58, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am hoping that making no sense will intrigue people to click it as I thought that was the point of a hook. I thought a hook was supposed to be clickbait. Chidgk1 (talk) 06:07, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There's somewhat of a difference if a fine line between a hook that is intentionally vague to encourage people to read, and a hook that is so vague that it makes no sense and thus drives away readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:27, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2: ... that Batman has extra heavy crude? Source: https://www.eia.gov/international/analysis/country/TUR page 3 ...Türkiye’s proved oil reserves, which are primarily located in the southeastern provinces of Batman ... https://merip.org/2020/10/the-unintended-consequences-of-turkeys-quest-for-oil/ "The petroleum was very heavy"

@Onegreatjoke: I assume that many readers will be American and many Americans know the superhero - of course ALT2 might make no sense on first reading but turns out to be grammatically and factually correct Chidgk1 (talk) 16:15, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Onegreatjoke: does this new hook satisfy your concerns? Z1720 (talk) 16:38, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Approving hook Alt2. I think the play on words and the possible confusion with the superhero is what makes this hook "hooky"; somewhat in the vein of the type of hooks we run on April fools day. For me this is a good hook for this particular article which is on a relatively dry topic. The hook fact is accurate and verifiable to the cited source. Article is within policy, and the nomination was made in the proper window. Hook alt2 can be promoted.4meter4 (talk) 21:29, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]