Talk:Ogrodzieniec, Warmian-Masurian Voivodeship
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As of the last version I looked at, the lead begins:
Ogrodzieniec [ɔɡrɔˈd͡ʑɛɲɛt͡s] (German: Neudeck) is a village in the administrative district of Gmina Kisielice, within Iława County, Warmian-Masurian Voivodeship, in northern Poland.[1] Previously called Neudeck, it was renowned as the country residence of German President Paul von Hindenburg, who died there in 1934.
This is problematic because:
- Mentioning Neudeck twice in the lead is redundant.
- We don't italicize the alternate-language version unless the first one given is English ("Munich (German: München) is..."), in which case the italicization is sufficient emphasis.
- The city is not presently also named Neudeck; that's a historical name.
I think what I'd do with it is this (and it's pretty typical of how we handle such things):
Ogrodzieniec [ɔɡrɔˈd͡ʑɛɲɛt͡s] is a village in the administrative district of Gmina Kisielice, within Iława County, Warmian-Masurian Voivodeship, in northern Poland.[1] Previously known by its German name, Neudeck [give pronunciation here with
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- most English speakers will expect /niu-dek/, but it's actually /noi-dek/], it was renowned as the country residence of German President Paul von Hindenburg, who died there in 1934.
— SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 07:09, 29 December 2015 (UTC)