Talk:Israeli incursions in the West Bank during the Israel–Hamas war
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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 November 2023
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On 24, November, In the West Bank city of Tulkarm,two alleged IDF collaborators were executed.
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https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/palestinian-territories/1700897674-amid-celebrations-for-freed-prisoners-palestinians-publicly-execute-collaborators Sam6897 (talk) 10:56, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Deltaspace42 (talk • contribs) 15:08, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
Biased language
[edit]One of the groups depicted as fighting is "Armed settler colonialists". This is biased language that wouldn't generally be used on Wikipedia. I suggest changing it to armed Israeli settlers which is the norm when referring to them. 176.230.36.89 (talk) 21:13, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Npov
[edit]thr article uses mostly al jazira reports but it's perceptive ( and its objectivity or even accuricy ) at this subject is known. So, we have to use different sources and mention who reported. For example, it is little strange ( or not, really ) why events like this are not mentioned
https://m.maariv.co.il/news/military/Article-1067419 https://www.kolhair.co.il/jerusalem-news/217510/ 2.55.167.54 (talk) 22:21, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- What do they translate to? You can post an edit request The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 09:48, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
map not loading - technical issue?
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maybe just my machine, but I will mention it: File:2023 Israel–Hamas war - West Bank.svg is supposed to load on this page. It doesn't quite seem to be deleted, but it doesn't load embedded like normal. you can click through though & view it. anyone know what's up with that? skakEL 16:45, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- working fine now. sorry for the minor false alarm. skakEL 22:31, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 April 2024
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in the casualty part, its stating 482 killed as if they were fighters yet in the source itself it estimate 100 children were killed this is done by the JIDF to make it seem like the IDF is some super army that killed 500 palestinian fighters when in fact it killed civilians exclusively i ask for the citation to be written infront so that normies can actually understand whats actually going on Waterlover3 (talk) 16:22, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 10:37, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Is the PA an Israeli ally?
[edit]@The Great Mule of Eupatoria: regarding this revert: the Al-Jazeera source indeed says: "However, following July’s raid on Jenin, the body announced it would cease security cooperation with Israel.
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Can you provide sources that the PA is taking part in the combat operations? VR (Please ping on reply) 01:05, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- PA regularly foils paramilitary operations, for example disabling IED’s and have been accused on being informants relaying information to Israeli authorities
- They have also participated directly cracking down on paramilitaries, for example in this publication a tulkarm battalion member has been killed during a shootout with PA security forces
- https://palinfo.com/news/2024/04/02/883691/ The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 12:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- @The Great Mule of Eupatoria: But are they on the same side as Israel or is this a three-way conflict? Or perhaps the Palestinians are having an internal conflict that is not directly related to "Israeli incursions", which is what this article is about.VR (Please ping on reply) 23:06, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- They seem to be on the same side. I have not been able to find a single notable instance of Palestinian security forces under Abbas conducting any attacks against Israeli forces invading Area A cities and in fact they seem to be “allowing” them too
- meanwhile the PA is cracking down on militant factions and cells throughout the West Bank so they definitely are an active belligerent instead of a “sit and watch” party
- https://www.aljazeera.net/amp/news/2024/3/31/بيانات-تحذير-من-كتائب-للمقاومة-بعد The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 03:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- I just added the PA as a belligerent based on information I have gathered. Evaporation123 (talk) 06:50, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- @The Great Mule of Eupatoria: But are they on the same side as Israel or is this a three-way conflict? Or perhaps the Palestinians are having an internal conflict that is not directly related to "Israeli incursions", which is what this article is about.VR (Please ping on reply) 23:06, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 July 2024
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Add flags of EQB and PIJ, It would simply look better
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 13:17, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 July 2024
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Requested move 28 August 2024
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 08:14, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Israeli incursions in the West Bank during the Israel–Hamas war → West Bank theatre of the Israel–Hamas war – The war-related fighting in the West Bank isn't just limited to the IDF doing incursions, but also involves Palestinian attacks on settlers and involvement of the PA security forces. Furthermore, the proposed new title is also more concise. Evaporation123 (talk) 07:04, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose See Multiple Palestinians killed as Israel launches major operation in occupied West Bank and Israeli settlements surge amidst Gaza war "Israel’s current war against Hamas in Gaza, which began after the October 7 attacks, has increasingly spilled over into the West Bank with Israeli military raids, settler attacks and clashes killing hundreds of Palestinians." It's not a theatre of the war, it is an acceleration of the pre war situation.
Palestinian attacks on settlers
Seriously? That's just an inversion of reality.
- Oppose See Multiple Palestinians killed as Israel launches major operation in occupied West Bank and Israeli settlements surge amidst Gaza war "Israel’s current war against Hamas in Gaza, which began after the October 7 attacks, has increasingly spilled over into the West Bank with Israeli military raids, settler attacks and clashes killing hundreds of Palestinians." It's not a theatre of the war, it is an acceleration of the pre war situation.
- Selfstudier (talk) 08:26, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Strong oppose The West Bank is described as spillover of the Israel-Gaza war by RS; it is not a theater of it. Makeandtoss (talk) 11:49, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- The infobox of the Israel-Hamas war article itself describes the West Bank as a "regional theatre of operation". Not denying that it isn't a spillover- it just seems that the two terms can be used interchangeably. Perhaps Spillover of the Israel-Hamas war in the West Bank or West Bank spillover of the Israel-Hamas war might be better alternatives? Evaporation123 (talk) 18:56, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- the spillover part is an adjective not a name; the events are referred to in RS as Israeli incursions in West Bank; so current title is fine. Makeandtoss (talk) 21:37, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- The infobox of the Israel-Hamas war article itself describes the West Bank as a "regional theatre of operation". Not denying that it isn't a spillover- it just seems that the two terms can be used interchangeably. Perhaps Spillover of the Israel-Hamas war in the West Bank or West Bank spillover of the Israel-Hamas war might be better alternatives? Evaporation123 (talk) 18:56, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Strongly Oppose The new title would imply all events in the article are directly apart of or caused solely by the "Israel-Hamas war", limiting the scope of the article and possibly causing confusion. Numerous events in the West Bank covered by this article are continuations of pre existing norms and, while connected to the war in Gaza, not strictly apart of it.~~~~ Mason7512 (talk) 20:05, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
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