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Media Response, Meighan's report

Patrick Meighan's report of the events of police action against Occupy LA represent a valuable primary source of information counterpointing the major media portrayal.

Wikipedia seeks to be NPOV, but the major media does not seek to counterpoint itself; even (allegedly) opposing-view biased news sources will mainly follow the common version of events. Often Wikipedia's NPOV goals are used as an argument to suppress counterpoint views, usually paired with notability or bias (especially conspiracy theory) claims. I make here in particular the argument that Wikipedia is automatically biased toward the mainstream view: if equal attention is given to two views on an issue, then the Wikipedia reader will find stronger affinity with the mainstream view as less information is given in the Wikipedia article.

In other words, a Wikipedia article that supplies a balanced coverage of an event will seem strongly slanted to mainstream view with one sentence coverage for each side, and almost completely balanced with two multi-paragraph sections equally covering both views. This is because of information saturation: everyone else supplies a large volume of information on one view, and the single sentences in Wikipedia are placeholders for these volumes of information. As one placeholder represents much more information than the other, it holds more weight.

To that end, I feel that the small bit of information I've injected overbalances Wikipedia significantly toward the counter view. There is a vague mention of the raids--with no coverage of media sentiment--and I've only put in information from Meighan's recount. The semi-informed and the uninformed will read this and gain the same bias as simply reading Meighan's recount.

Perhaps some editors should add a separate section about the raid on November 29, covering the media sentiment ("LAPD's Finest Hour") and Meighan's sentiment. Meighan is notable because he was there; his obvious bias is counterbalanced by the news media's obvious bias: their information came from police statements, not on-site news reporting or interviews with the protesters.

--John Moser (talk) 17:15, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Facebook page

While I am sure the Facebook page is the official one, that is not why I removed the external link to it. Per WP:ELOFFICIAL:

"More than one official link should be provided only when the additional links provide the reader with unique content and are not prominently linked from other official websites. For example, if the main page of the official website for an author contains a link to the author's blog and Twitter feed, then it is not appropriate to provide links to all three. Instead, provide only the main page of the official website in this situation." (emphasis added)

Because there is a prominent link on the official website to the Facebook page, there does not need to be an external link to it in this article. Thanks, 72Dino (talk) 14:46, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rtnews template

I've removed the Russia Today news template from the page, as it had raised concern because it pointed to a single trending news page, rather than a selection of trend pages, and after discussion in the appropriate places, it's easier to remove it than it is to add lots of other trend pages, as I don't know of any (don't have time to look). If there are any comments, concerns, or suggestions please reply on my talkpage, as I don't watch this page. Penyulap ☏ 05:04, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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