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Town

Is it Cincinnati of Cincinatti?. 94.234.52.107 (talk) 23:54, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Motive?

Was there ever a motive established? Jimw338 (talk) 17:18, 27 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The presumptive motive was sexual assault, but this was never fully established due to lack of evidence during the autopsy and Chandler's insistence he was innocent. JackMeraxes (talk) 09:35, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that the bodies of the three women were decomposed and subject to being immersed in the water for several days. This "washed away" any evidence of sexual assault. However, all three women were found partially naked, from the waist down. Also, Chandler had a very long history of rape and sexual abuse. So, I agree that the presumptive motive was sexual assault. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 15:55, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Serial killer

I am confused ... why is he listed as a "serial killer"? He killed three women in one incident. That makes him a mass murderer, I believe ... but not really a "serial" killer. No? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:31, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. "Serial" is the adjectival form of "series", implying a series of killings spread out over time. This was one incident, regardless of the number of victims. I've changed it and removed the associated categories. Largoplazo (talk) 04:58, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 15:56, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed two further mentions of Chandler being a serial killer.BabbaQ (talk) 11:49, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

He is a serial killer because he was later connected by DNA to another murder that happened in 1990.--Afjnsd (talk) 00:16, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No. The first murders of the Rogers women is cosidered as one murder/event.BabbaQ (talk) 07:35, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Serial killer 2

Editors keeps on adding material about Chandler being a serial killer. He still is not one per definition. By this post I hope we can put this discussion to rest. Until investigators find a third victim he is ”just” a murderer. BabbaQ (talk) 11:58, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

He was already convicted of three murders and was connected by DNA to a fourth one though.--Afjnsd (talk) 00:18, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Serial Killer?

Isn't he a serial killer because he was already convicted and executed for the June 1989 murders of Joan Rogers and her two daughters but then after his death DNA evidence identified Chandler as the murderer of Ivelisse Berrios-Beguerisse, who was found dead in Coral Springs, Florida, on November 27, 1990? Because that adds up to four murders with the murders taking place over more than a month and including a significant period of time between them.--Afjnsd (talk) 00:12, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No because the 1989 murders were all done together at once. The 1990 murder was a separate murder. In order for him to be classed as a serial killer, he would have to have killed another person (or people) at a different location and point in time that was unrelated to the first two events. Even though he killed four people, three of them were done together so technically it classes as only one killing per serial killer criteria. Inexpiable (talk) 12:39, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Who says that someone needs to murder people during three different events to be considered a serial killer? I've never heard that before. Silent-Rains (talk) 02:03, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That is as far as I know common knowledge within this subject. And part of the name ”serial” killer kind of is a giveaway.BabbaQ (talk) 07:31, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

” Serial murder is the killing of three or more people over a period of more than 30 days, with a significant cooling-off period between the murders The baseline number of three victims appears to be most common among those who are the academic authorities in the field.”BabbaQ (talk) 09:55, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I understand that serial killers murder multiple people with a cooling-off period. But I've never heard of serial killers needing to murder people on three or more separate occasions. Oba Chandler murdered four people between 1989 and 1990, but Inexpiable was arguing that he was not a serial killer because three of his murders (the triple murder) took place at once, meaning that he killed on two separate occasions. Nowhere in the definition that you provided does it state that a serial killer must kill on three separate occasions. Silent-Rains (talk) 20:19, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In fact there is, ” with a significant cooling-off period between the murders”. In the definition of a serial killer, Chandler will have to be confirmed to have killed at least one more individual. And with a cooling off period in between.BabbaQ (talk) 21:49, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oba Chandler is proven to have murdered four women between 1989 and 1990. Silent-Rains (talk) 22:03, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is three murders in one night, a significant cooling off period between murders?BabbaQ (talk) 22:34, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

He murdered a woman on June 1, 1989, and then murdered three more women on November 27, 1990. That is more than a year between murders. So yes, there was a significant cooling off period between the murders. Silent-Rains (talk) 23:03, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]