Talk:OPEN LOOK

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"New OL home"

An edit today added the tidbit that "OPEN LOOK is now hosted at Sourceforge" -- OPEN LOOK is a specification, not software, so saying it has a new home at Sourceforge wouldn't seem to be right (unless there's an open source project to change the specification itself.)

The Sourceforge page describes the project as the "OpenLook desktop", containing xview, olvwm, and companion programs. That's a description of OpenWindows, not OPEN LOOK.

We can't fix the name of the project here (although maybe if someone associated with the project is reading this, they could take note and change it?), but we can put the pointer to it in the right place. I would suggest moving this info to the OpenWindows page.--NapoliRoma 13:44, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 17:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism of Article

The "information of long ago demise" is complete competitive trash i consider vandalism.

olwm (olvwm) is still in distribution and better than most desktops, I still use it at times. It's simple and very powerful and network able: from the bottom up and inside out; and stable. Perfect if you need a thin but powerful virtual workspaces desktop, ie, are avoiding installing a DVD full of version hack upgrades that break things.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.209.222.174 (talk • contribs) 14:01, July 1, 2013‎

Why is the Amiga mentioned here?

This is an article about Open Look, not the Amiga. If the Amiga is here why not any number of other GUIs, most computers from the mid 1980s onwards had them in some form. GEM is a standalone example. Other machines with which a GUI was packaged as standard include the Atari ST and Acorn's Archimedes. Wouldn't this article be more focused if None rather than all of them were mentioned? Recommend removing mention of the Amiga as superfluous. The inclusion of the Apple Macintosh and Microsoft windows can at least be understood from their historical perspective. The Star and Alto from Xerox which originate the WIMP metaphor in a desktop computer and the Apple Lisa which was the first popular public release of the GUI are all more important landmarks in GUI history than the Commodore Amiga is. Vapourmile (talk) 01:24, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

XView is NOT built in top of the X Toolkit

This diagram is incorrect: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/File:Xlib_and_XCB_in_the_X_Window_System_graphics_stack.svg It shows that XView is built on top of the X Toolkit, and that is wrong. It talks to XLib directly, and has nothing to do with the X Toolkit.

There was another OPEN LOOK toolkit that had nothing to do with XView, which WAS built on top of the X Toolkit, and that was MOOLIT, for the Motif OPEN LOOK Intrinsics Toolkit. It was a terrible idea, and nobody in their right mind wanted to have anything to do with it, because it combined the worst of both worlds, not to mention its name was ridiculous. But it definitely didn't have anything to do with XView, which was independently terrible. http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/MoOLIT

Xardox (talk) 11:35, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]