Talk:Nusach Sefard

Uhh Sources?

Some of this is not true, and none of it is sourced, and one piece seems like vandalism. New York and Pennsylvania? Basejumper 19:44, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quick edit summary - I changed the part about it being like the Sephardi siddur. It is not. It's closer to Ashkenaz, only in afew prayers and in a few order switches does it follow the sephardi rite. I removed the thing about Pennsylvania and New York. Basejumper 20:06, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Customs

Customs are destinct from the prayer book and customs differ from group to group, usually not following Sephardi custom. The tefillin thing is a sephardi custom, but it was adopted to mimic the practice of the Ari, not to mimic sephardim. Basejumper 20:06, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sefarad, not Sefard

There is no such Hebrew word as "Sefard". According to the vowel points, the transliteration should be "Sefarad", or "Sepharad". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.192.42.105 (talk) 21:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

not true. the most accurate transliteration would be s'fard as this is the closest to how ashkenazim pronounce it. since we are talking about ashkenazi custom (particularly chassidic custom) it would be most appropriate to use the spelling of sfard or sefard68.50.99.248 (talk) 19:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)jonah[reply]

For once, I agree 100%. To say "Nusach Sefarad" suggests the actual Sephardic rite. "Sefard" is an ungrammatical back-formation from "Sephardim", but it is what everyone actually says when referring to the rite in question. --Sir Myles na Gopaleen (the da) (talk) 16:02, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In the long run, I don't think it's accurate - the question here is, when there is a Hebrew word in Wikipedia, how is it going to be pronounced? You may say that Ashkenazim pronounce it "Sefard", but I guarantee you that any Israeli (native speaker of Hebrew) who will see the name of the Siddur, is going to say "sefarad" (and they would be right). In the article on mitnagdim, for example, you could say that it's really "misnagdim" (since it's an Ashkenazi concept), but Wikipedia should reflect a standardized Israeli Hebrew pronunciation - or at least also provide the Israeli pronunciation.Jimhoward72 (talk) 22:49, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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