Talk:Nuevas Ideas

References

can you please use references in english. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.32.148.110 (talk) 04:32, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Cyan

is it really cyan? for me its clearly light blue Braganza (talk) 21:32, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

The party's color is cyan, specifically process cyan, as per the party's statutes and virtually every news outlet referring to the party's representation in the Legislative Assembly as the "cyan bench". PizzaKing13 ^¡Hablame! 09:28, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

@PizzaKing13: does cyan have the same meaning in spanish though?

How about calling it azure Braganza (talk) 08:49, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

I agree it is light blue (as much as they call themselves "cyan". Process cyan is #00B7EB while the flag on the article is #00AFEF. I'm afraid @PizzaKing13 is editing according to his bias for supporting president Bukele (which he admits on his talk page).

TanookiKoopa (talk) 10:03, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Ideology

"While Bukele himself has been described as a conservative politician" It should be mentioned that he was seen as a left leaning politician before he came to power.They only began to be describe him as conservative only after he spent a few months in office. Smahwk (talk) 11:54, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Consensus on political spectrum

Yeah this page seems to be edited a lot in terms of "political spectrum". I 100% think that if we're going to keep it, it should be "Centre to centre-right". Right now it's "syncretic" with no sources explaining how, I don't think that there's anything "left-wing" about it personally but I wouldn't call syncretic an accurate description. It just feels like a buzzword. I personally think we should just delete the whole "spectrum" part. Gnerkistanislaviyort (talk) 08:43, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 16:20, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Solid work and pretty exhaustive. Good on you for maintaining NPOV despite supporting the party, too. Just some copy tweaks to be done. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 16:46, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

@Sammi Brie: Thanks for your comments. I've made some changes. PizzaKing13 ^¡Hablame! 18:16, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Copy changes

Lead

• No need to put (TSE) in the lead because it's not mentioned again here. See also in History
  • Y Fixed.
• Ahead of the upcoming 2024 general election, Bukele has announced that he is running for re-election and Nuevas Ideas leadership has stated that the party aims to win all 60 seats in the Legislative Assembly. Comma after "re-election". See User:Sammi Brie/Commas in sentences (CinS)
  • Y Fixed.
• Nuevas Ideas has been described as a Bukelist political party, following Bukele's political ideology. According to Anna-Catherine Brigida and Mary Beth Sheridan of The Washington Post, the party is "based more on his [Bukele's] image and performance than on a traditional political ideology". Possibly merge these sentences with a semicolon
  • Y Fixed.
• The party's primary color is cyan and its secondary color is white. Make this something like The party's colors are cyan and white and maybe merge it with the next sentence.
  • Y Fixed.
• The party, described as being populist, utilizes social media outlets to communicate with the public and spread propaganda to support the government and oppose the opposition. That's not terribly innovative these days, but if they're known specifically for their social media strategy, maybe say that differently.
  • Y Fixed.

History

• Xochilt This is probably a misspelling of Xóchitl
  • Y Fixed.
• Reintroduce the TSE acronym meaning here as first use in the body.
  • Y Fixed.
• He was inaugurated on 1 June 2019, becoming the first president in 30 years since José Napoleón Duarte of the Christian Democratic Party (PDC) left office in 1989 The "in 30 years" breaks the flow of the sentence and is redundant.
  • Y Fixed.
• the first election the party participated in Change to "the first election in which the party participated" to not end the sentence in a preposition.
  • Y Fixed.
• formed a government with GANA, the Christian Democratic Party, the National Coalition Party (PCN) Missing an "and"
  • Y Fixed.
• In February 2023, Castro not only confirmed that Nuevas Ideas was formally looking into reducing the number of municipalities from 262 to 50, but also that they were looking into reducing the seats in the Legislative Assembly from 84 to 64. This sentence is long and a little redundant in context. Perhaps:
  • In February 2023, Castro not only confirmed that Nuevas Ideas was formally investigating municipal consolidation but also that they were looking into reducing the seats in the Legislative Assembly from 84 to 64.
    • Y Fixed.
• the party postponed its primary elections for 9 July Should be postponed to
  • Y Fixed.
• 44 mayors to the municipalities Try "44 mayors"
  • Y Fixed.
• "irregularities" ("irregularidades") Is this necessary?
  • Per MOS:FOREIGNQUOTE, yes
• Should be "Santos's", MOS:'S
  • Y Fixed.
• Nuevas Ideas has smaller bodies and structures on the country's departmental and municipal levels. Should be "at", not "on"
  • Y Fixed.

Symbols

• The party's "N" logo has been sometimes referred to as "the N of Nayib" ("la N de Nayib"), or simply "the N" ("la N"). The comma is unnecessary.
  • Y Fixed.

Spot checks

• 6: Signatures for Nuevas Ideas: 176,076 of them. De ellas 176,076 fueron calificadas como válidas Y
• 22: TSE electoral results for 2021. They are by department, so all the N or N-GANA entries must be added up. They do add to 56. Y
• 31: Article in Time. The new lawmakers were sworn in on May 1 and moved quickly to clear Bukele’s political path forward by firing all five judges on the country’s highest court and the independent attorney general, all in violation of Salvadoran law. Y
• 36: Roy García, secretario general del Partido Independiente de Salvadoreños en el Exterior (PAIS) y exlíder de Nuevas Ideas en el exterior, estaría intentando comprar voluntades y pago de prebendas a cambio de lograr una ruptura interna dentro de la bancada de Nuevas Ideas, según revelaron miembros de la institución política. Según la denuncia, que fue acompañada por un audio de 45 minutos, Roy García mantiene una reunión con dos diputados de Nuevas Ideas en la cual se presenta como enlace de la Embajada de Estados Unidos en El Salvador, y negocian la salida de la fracción de unos 15 a 25 diputados a cambio de prebendas que García iría a buscar a Estados Unidos. Y
• 43: El Salvador debería estar dividido en 50 municipios, máximo. Es absurdo que 21 mil kilómetros cuadrados estén divididos en 262 alcaldías, escribió el mandatario en su cuenta de Twitter el 30 de diciembre último, lo que es visto ya como un desafío a la Constitución. Y
• 52: List of groups in PARLACEN. Hernández Castillo is listed as the president. Y
• 62: Esta es una proyección que Claudia Ortiz del partido Vamos calificó de antidemocrática, ya aseguró que “se debe promover la pluralidad política; si una opción aspira a controlarlo todo, no está dispuesto al debate con nadie, ni con la misma sociedad”. Y
• 88: President Nayib Bukele and his populist conservative party, Nuevas Ideas... Y
• 97: There's a mention of the estructura orgánica del partido en el ámbito nacional, departamental y municipal which suffices. Y
• 100: Al primo del presidente de la República, Nayib Bukele, le favorecen los resultados de forma abrumadora, ya que se encontraba a la cabeza con 21 mil 768, era seguido por Isabel Monje con 2 mil 764 votos y tercero Israel Juárez con 623. Y
• 108: Nuevas Ideas USA event in New York. Y

Images

There are three images, each CC-licensed. The first is cropped from the original. (Nice grab on the one from Wilbur Ross's official Twitter.) The party symbols in the infobox are below the threshold of originality. All have alt text.

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Ideology 2

Source 91 FES does not say anywhere that NI is left-wing. The first quote you mentioned only states that NI has attracted left-wing voters, and the second quote groups it with left-wing parties, but with the context of the first quote, that doesn't correlate that NI is left-wing as it would be referring to its left-wing voters. PizzaKing13 ^¡Hablame! 04:38, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

No, the first reference does not mention it, but it has absolutely nothing to do with it. Its voters can be left-wing and the party as well 2800:2503:4:C66B:1965:29AC:AD21:D46D (talk) 09:56, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello, how are you? To begin with, the article clearly speaks of the party as a left-wing one. It does not literally say "Nuevas Ideas, of the left" but it makes it very explicit, in addition to referring to its voters in this way. Therefore, I suggest that the information be added again. There is no reason why this information should not be in the article. Best regards.

2800:2503:4:C66B:375B:454C:859E:B0B2 (talk) 09:48, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

And (although nothing to do with the previous discussion),if I can add it, here is a reference that the party defends a welfare social state: https://revistas.ues.edu.sv/index.php/rcs/article/download/2511/2513/6123. 2800:2503:4:C66B:DDD1:C8E1:8B3D:5102 (talk) 10:07, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Political position

I think the party's position needs to change since the "big tent" category is very vague and simplistic for this type of parties. I think we should reach an agreement to change his political position. We should add syncretism as a position and state that it combines policies of populist neo-Keynesian center-leftism in the economic sphere (such as the donation of computers, the free use of many sectors, price controls, high taxes, etc.) with conservative (or ultraconservative) right-wing policies in the social sphere ( such as his position against abortion, LGBT rights, equal marriage, etc.). Bukelist argentinian (talk) 18:24, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Do you have multiple sources which state it is syncretic. It is currently labeled big tent because the sources state so. Changing it based off of what we perceive it to be would be WP:OR. PizzaKing13 ^¡Hablame! 20:54, 6 April 2024 (UTC)