Talk:Not Afraid

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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on November 18, 2011.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that a flying scene in the music video for Eminem's song "Not Afraid" has been compared to The Matrix?

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Uploaded the Cover . Asid12345678 (talk) 19:44, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Not Afraid (song)

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Not Afraid (song)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "acharts":

From Drop the World: "Lil Wayne and Eminem - Drop The World - Music Charts". acharts.us. Retrieved 2010-04-17.
From Relapse (album): "Eminem - Relapse - Music Charts". αCharts.us. Retrieved May 28, 2009.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 18:45, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Music Video

The Music Video has been taken down from that channel, cant find it anywhere else. Noteworthy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.100.220.95 (talk) 22:31, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Music Video Location

The page states filmed on the streets of Newark but the scene were he's on top of a building is the Manhattan Municipal building overlooking Brooklyn I believe.

I agree - the panoramas of the skyline clearly shows a view from what's likely the roof of the Manhattan Municipal Building looking in a south-easterly direction along the Brooklyn Bridge. The Verizon building is seen to the left of the screen and the Southbridge Towers are at the middle. The Brooklyn Heights Promenade and Brooklyn Bridge Park is the patch of green across the East River in the background. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.59.75.104 (talk) 07:04, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Music —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.116.156.125 (talk) 05:43, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chart sucess

chart sucess is displayed on the main Eminem page - says Not afraid went No.1 in Austria...? Why is a chart listing not given here find one!And change this opinionated article, u could simply have stated that it is the first single from recovery. A mention can be that EMINEM HIMSELF states he feels Relapse was not as good as his other albums but saying that it is not like his first singles from other albums is bull- Yeah in OPINION I think it is but its still got a rythmatic anthemy tune to it.. he trys to sing as well "..time to put my life back together riiiiiight NOW!"..

NEEDS RE-writing! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.5.219 (talk) 21:21, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well as it says this is Eminem's first first single from an album that has a deeper meaning. He says Relapse was "ehhh" in the song not that it was not as good as his others. He has talked down on Encore before too. STAT- Verse 23:42, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are you kidding me?

Is it too much to ask for someone remotely competent to fix this sorry excuse for an article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.213.150.170 (talk) 02:44, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if you think it needs to be fixed, then do it yourself. --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 02:46, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe he's not remotely competent? – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 09:01, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jack Lucien's song I'm Not Afraid

Should we put a link at the top for Jack Lucien's single from 2009 I'm Not Afraid? They have really similar titles and could get people confused? Gordonbrownfan (talk)gordonbrownfanGordonbrownfan (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:31, 21 June 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Page moved. Ucucha 06:45, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not Afraid (song) → Not Afraid — There are only two uses for this name. This article is clearly more popular than the other one. Therefore, I propose using this one as the main article, then placing a hatnote at the top of this article that leads to the other article. This removes the need for a disambiguation page, saving one extra click. Gary King (talk) 23:44, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. With only two articles with this name, a hatnote will suffice (which I'll add now). — AjaxSmack 06:29, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support, but I note that the title track of the album is a song too, and it appears to be a diferent song, so there may be a future need for a DAB of some sort. Andrewa (talk) 14:46, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, not a problem (although it is unlikely that that article will ever be created, unless it somehow reaches the Billboard charts after a few years of it being released already). This Eminem song will surely be the most popular use of the term for quite a while. Gary King (talk) 16:27, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. And without wanting to speculate, IMO it's even predictable that the Eminem song would remain the primary meaning for some time after disambiguation first became necessary. Andrewa (talk) 21:23, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The song is getting over 250 times the pageviews of the album so far this month, and at least 96% of dab page visitors opt for the song. Station1 (talk) 19:39, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support as primary usage within Wikipedia of this name. --Polaron | Talk 15:54, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Royce da 5'9" in the Video?

I couldn't find Royce da 5'9" in the video, can anyone tell me what moment he appears? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MC Head (talk • contribs) 14:10, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT REQUEST - Conspiracy theories

WTH??!!!! Vandalism?! REMOVE PLEASE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.21.44 (talk) 23:57, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. It's wellknown at the internet and as long as we have reliable sources i see no reason removing it. Regards/ KzKrann (talk) 01:50, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How is this a reliable source???? It isn't even well written --190.157.153.179 (talk) 02:28, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you think that's a reliable source, I have a bridge that you might be interested in purchasing 119.12.103.211 (talk) 10:11, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The source does not seem to make any sources further discussing this "conspiracy theory". Just mentions the assumption of one person. No further sources seem to direct the same idea. please, include further information to confirm this with reliable sources. --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 15:40, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Despicable" is uplifting?

The first sentence in Background talks about "Despicable"; the sentence following immediately is, "In the song, described as "uplifting" by manager Paul Rosenberg,[5] Eminem tells of how he has tried to overcome the troubles in his life from the past few years, mainly his drug addiction and rehabilitation." This confusion should be fixed. I don't know anything about "Despicable", so I wouldn't be helpful. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 01:37, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done fixed wording. STAT -Verse 20:24, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Charts

Not Afraid peaked at #17 on the Billboard Pop 100 for the week of August 21st. Just add this to the table of chart success it's not that hard.

US Pop Songs (Billboard)	17Cite error: There are `<ref>` tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).http://www.billboard.com/#/charts/pop-songs?begin=11&order=position

OS4life (talk) 22:13, 12 August 2010 (UTC) OS4life (talk) 20:18, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Conflicting catagories

In the synopsis, the text reads "The song entered the Billboard Hot 100 at number one for the week ending May 22, 2010, making it the sixteenth song in Billboard's history to debut at number one and only the second rap single ever to debut at the top spot." Yet, in Commercial performance, it reads ""Not Afraid" is only the second hip hop single to debut at No. 1 following "I'll Be Missing You" by Puff Daddy and Faith Evans featuring 112." This conflict needs to be resolved. Is the song "Hip hop" or "Rap"? (No matter how good or bad it is, it always goes away. -- Anonymous (talk) 20:40, 9 July 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Rap.. Hip Hop.. same thing. Red Flag on the Right Side 20:50, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, those two words are used synomonously, but they are not synomonous. According to the synopsis of the Hip Hop music article, which references The Harvard Dictionary of Music, "The term rap is often used synonymously with hip hop, but hip hop denotes the practices of an entire subculture." While this song does incorporate rap elements, it also incorporates others elements of hip hop music. Is there consensus that the insertion of language stating that the song incorporates multiple elements of hip hop, including rap would help clear up this inconsistency, therefore improving the article? Or should it just make note that the words are used synonymously, but they really are not? (There is nothing civil about Civil War. 04:38, 11 July 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Critical Reception

The reception is way to biased and also has no sources, it seems to be just one persons opinion —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.98.166.119 (talk) 22:43, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Similarities to the matrix

i watched the matrix revolutions and the  music video for this song, and there were A LOT of similarities to te matrix and the music video for this  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.14.143.12 (talk) 04:10, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No original research. We need a source that explicitly states similarities. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 12:33, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Parodies

Eminem's hit single "Not Afraid" from his newest album Recovery has had a number of parodies created in response to the song's message, video, and theme."I Am Afraid" by CollegeHumor was posted on August 24, 2010, just over a month after the original single was released. The CollegeHumor video follows the cinematography techniques of Eminem's official music video, but incorporates imagery which is outlined by the re-written lyrics of the parodied song. While the CollegeHumor video parodies the concept of fear, The Key of Awesome, a YouTube comedy show, created a spoof of the song called "EMINEM Not Afraid Parody". It makes fun of what Eminem stands for, his celebrity persona and alter egos. The video also refers to things he has tweeted, rapped about, or been a part of in the past. --Strassap (talk) 21:26, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your contribution, but these are all YouTube parodies and are not notable, just some unprofessional spoofs. You have not provided reliable sources either. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 23:05, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

certifications

The certifications of RIAA i.e 4x Platinum for this song have not been mentioned. I have mentioned it. if anyone finds some error may correct it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhinav0927 (talk • contribs) 06:14, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect Chart Position

Not Afraid was number one on the "R&B/Hip-Hop Digital Songs" chart, not the "R&B/Hip-Hop Songs" chart. News outlets are reporting that The Monster is his first number 1 on the "R&B/Hip-Hop Songs" chart, so this needs to be corrected. MarshallMolasses (talk) 06:03, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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