Talk:Northside Hospital System

Edit Request

NOTE: I am proposing this edit for FleishmanHillard on behalf of Northside Hospital. I am a paid editor and am aware of the COI guidelines. I am submitting this edit request to propose revisions to the article in the hopes of addressing the two maintenance templates at the top of the article. We’ve provided an overview of proposed edits below and have proposed replacement content and sourcing below the overview (in the extended content) that we recommend to correct these issues and bring the article in line with Wikipedia standards.

Infobox

• Change location (which is specific to Northside’s Atlanta medical office) to “Atlanta metropolitan area.”

General Information

• Add proposed paragraph in extended content summarizing Northside Hospitals and its specialties.

Northside Hospital Healthcare System

• Remove this section due to lack of proper sourcing; factual information about the network was moved down to “History” section and properly sourced (see extended content).

Milestones

• Change “Milestones” to “Rankings” and move to follow “History” section.
• Remove J.D. Power and Associates award due to invalid sourcing.

History

• Remove copy in existing History section due to lack of sourcing or improper sourcing; also removed non-neutral statements; add in recommended copy in extended content below which summarizes the sequential History of the network with third-party sourcing and focused on key milestones in the network’s history.
• Remove information on merger with Gwinnett Health Systems due to it being a forward-looking statement.

Key Services

• Remove section due to lack of proper sourcing.

Extended content

Northside Hospital, Inc. (commonly known as Northside Hospital) refers to a network of hospitals and medical facilities in the Atlanta Metropolitan Area. Its specialties include oncology, gynecology, neurology, orthopedic surgery and gastroenterology. References History Northside’s flagship hospital, located in what is today known as Sandy Springs, opened in 1970. An eight-level patient tower was added in October 2018 to house the hospital’s blood and marrow transplant services. In 1997, Northside Hospital purchased half of R.T. Jones Memorial Hospital in Canton, Georgia and renamed the facility Northside Hospital-Cherokee. Northside Hospital-Cherokee’s new location opened in May 2017 and has a staff of 2,000 employees, including 800 physicians. Northside Hospital purchased Baptist Medical Center in Cumming, Georgia in 2002. and renamed the facility Northside Hospital-Forsyth. Originally a 41-bed facility , the hospital has since expanded to a capacity of 304 beds. Northside Hospital’s midtown Atlanta location opened in November 2018. The 169,000-square foot medical office provides services for cancer, sports medicine, diabetes, sleep disorders and other conditions. References Rankings Northside Hospital was named to Glassdoor's 100 Best Places to Work in 2019. Atlanta Business Journal named Northside Hospital a finalist in its 2018 Atlanta's Best Places to Work awards. In Comparably's annual Best Places to Work 2018 lists, Northside Hospital ranked 26th for Best Company Culture. and 27th for Best Companies for Women. References

Thank you for your consideration. Taylorcanderson (talk) 20:03, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Reply 27-FEB-2019

  Clarification requested  

• The request contain two sections:

1. One section which does not list the desired changes verbatim (instead, listing them as bulleted points)
2. A second section which does list the desired changes verbatim

Having two such request formats can be confusing. The edit request should utilize an economy of formats by listing both the changes desired verbatim along with the reasons why. These should be listed together instead of being separated by intervening bulleted sections. In the collapsed section below titled Request example, I have listed one such way this could be formatted to improve clarification of the desired changes.

Request example
Suggested format Section title Reason Verbatim suggestion Section title Reason Verbatim suggestion Section title Reason Verbatim suggestion References

Kindly rewrite your edit request so that it aligns more with the example shown in the collapsed section above, and feel free to re-submit that edit request at your earliest convenience. Regards,  Spintendo  12:10, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Notes

Clarification on Edit Request

NOTE: I am proposing this edit for FleishmanHillard on behalf of Northside Hospital. I am a paid editor and am aware of the COI guidelines.

@Spintendo: Thanks for your guidance on the format. We’ve re-organized the request in a format similar to the example you provided. Ultimately, our goal is to address the two maintenance templates currently on the page and provide new recommended content that hopefully will address these issues. Please see below and thank you for your consideration!

Extended content

Infobox Current location in Infobox is specific to Northside Hospital’s Atlanta medical office and doesn’t represent the fact that Northside Hospitals operates medical facilities across the Atlanta area. Suggest: Replace current location with “Atlanta metropolitan area.” Northside Hospital Healthcare System Currently, the article begins with an informational section (“Northside Hospital Healthcare System”) that contains information that is unsourced, first-party sourced or written in a potentially non-neutral manner. Suggest: Removing the “Northside Hospital Healthcare System” header and all content in that section (except Milestones, which I address below); replace with the following paragraph summarizing Northside Hospitals and its specialties to introduce page: Northside Hospital, Inc. (commonly known as Northside Hospital) refers to a network of hospitals and medical facilities in the Atlanta Metropolitan Area. Its specialties include oncology, gynecology, neurology, orthopedic surgery and gastroenterology. Milestones Suggest: Change “Milestones” to “Rankings” (to more accurately reflect the nature of information in this section) and move to follow “History” section (to bring more relevant information up in the order). History Currently, the information for Northside Hospital Atlanta, Northside Hospital Forsyth and Northside Hospital Cherokee is improperly sourced or unsourced. Also, the information under Gwinnett County is a forward-looking statement on a merger that is in the works, but has not yet officially occurred. Suggest replacing the current information in the History section with the following, which seeks to bring sourcing in line with Wikipedia standards and condense information about the network’s history: Northside’s flagship hospital, located in what is today known as Sandy Springs, opened in 1970. An eight-level patient tower was added in October 2018 to house the hospital’s blood and marrow transplant services. In 1997, Northside Hospital purchased half of R.T. Jones Memorial Hospital in Canton, Georgia and renamed the facility Northside Hospital-Cherokee. Northside Hospital-Cherokee’s new location opened in May 2017 and has a staff of 2,000 employees, including 800 physicians. Northside Hospital purchased Baptist Medical Center in Cumming, Georgia in 2002. and renamed the facility Northside Hospital-Forsyth. Originally a 41-bed facility , the hospital has since expanded to a capacity of 304 beds. Northside Hospital’s midtown Atlanta location opened in November 2018. The 169,000-square foot medical office provides services for cancer, sports medicine, diabetes, sleep disorders and other conditions. Key Services Much of what’s currently listed here is unsourced or not properly sourced. Will leave to your judgment if you’d like to retain, but we suggest removing this section due to sourcing issues (and the fact that some of the services have been mentioned in the proposed History section above). References

Taylorcanderson (talk) 23:20, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Reply 2-MAR-2019

Below you will see where proposals from your request have been quoted with reviewer decisions and feedback inserted underneath, either accepting, declining or otherwise commenting upon your proposal(s). Please read the enclosed notes within the proposal review section below for information on each request. Also note that the advert tone maintenance template was omitted. Spintendo  16:16, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Proposal review 2-MAR-2019

Replace current location with “Atlanta metropolitan area.  Approved. Northside Hospital, Inc. (commonly known as Northside Hospital) refers to a network of hospitals and medical facilities in the Atlanta Metropolitan Area. Its specialties include oncology, gynecology, neurology, orthopedic surgery and gastroenterology.  Approved. Change “Milestones” to “Rankings” (to more accurately reflect the nature of information in this section)  Declined. Move to follow “History” section.  Request moot. Northside’s flagship hospital, located in what is today known as Sandy Springs, opened in 1970. An eight-level patient tower was added in October 2018 to house the hospital’s blood and marrow transplant services. In 1997, Northside Hospital purchased half of R.T. Jones Memorial Hospital in Canton, Georgia and renamed the facility Northside Hospital-Cherokee.  Approved. Northside Hospital-Cherokee’s new location opened in May 2017 and has a staff of 2,000 employees, including 800 physicians.  Approved. Northside Hospital purchased Baptist Medical Center in Cumming, Georgia in 2002. and [sic] renamed the facility Northside Hospital-Forsyth.  Approved. Originally a 41-bed facility, the hospital has since expanded to a capacity of 304 beds.  Approved. Northside Hospital’s midtown Atlanta location opened in November 2018. The 169,000-square foot medical office provides services for cancer, sports medicine, diabetes, sleep disorders and other conditions.  Approved. ___________

Edit Request

NOTE: I am proposing this edit for FleishmanHillard on behalf of Northside Hospital. I am a paid editor and am aware of the COI guidelines. I am submitting this edit request to add information on a recent merger.

Edit request

History Add sentences with updated information on the recent merger with Gwinnett Health System. History section would now read: History Northside’s flagship hospital, located in Sandy Springs, opened in 1970. An eight-level patient tower was added in October 2018 to house the hospital’s blood and marrow transplant services. In 1997, Northside Hospital purchased half of R.T. Jones Memorial Hospital in Canton, Georgia and renamed the facility Northside Hospital-Cherokee. Northside Hospital-Cherokee’s location opened in May 2017 and has a staff of 2,000 employees, including 800 physicians. Northside Hospital purchased Baptist Medical Center in Cumming, Georgia in 2002, which was renamed Northside Hospital-Forsyth. Originally a 41-bed facility, the hospital expanded to 304 beds. Northside Hospital’s midtown Atlanta location opened in November 2018. The 169,000-square foot medical office provides services for cancer, sports medicine, diabetes, sleep disorders and other conditions. In August 2019, the most recent expansion of Northside Hospital took effect with the merger of Northside Hospital and Gwinnett Health System. The merger expanded the Northside Hospital System to include 1,636 inpatient beds, over 250 outpatient locations and almost 21,000 employees and 3,500 physicians on staff. References

Thank you for your consideration. Taylorcanderson (talk) 21:01, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Reply 27-SEP-2019

  Edit request declined  

• The information which is to be added has not been delineated. Instead, the added information has been incorporated along with previously approved claims in the History section, leaving the reviewer with no way to easily discern which of the claims are being added with the current request from those which have already been implemented.
• The COI editor is asked to segregate claims which have not yet been approved from claims which are already approved. The COI editor is additionally asked to provide reasons for why the claims should be added if those reasons are not obvious. Those reasons should be provided immediately adjacent to the proposed claims in question, rather than provided as a general introduction to the request. A sample request for how this should be done is shown below:

Sample edit request

1. Please remove the third sentence from the second paragraph of the Sun section: "The Sun's diameter is estimated to be approximately 25 miles in length." 2. Please add the following claim as the third sentence of the second paragraph of the Sun section: "The Sun's diameter is estimated to be approximately 864,337 miles in length." 3. Using as the reference: Paramjit Harinath (2019). The Sun. Academic Press. p. 1. 4. Reason for change being made: "The previously given diameter was incorrect."

Regards,  Spintendo  00:00, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

References

Edit Request

NOTE: I am proposing this edit for FleishmanHillard on behalf of Northside Hospital. I am a paid editor and am aware of the COI guidelines. I am submitting this edit request to add information on a recent merger.

@Spintendo: Thanks for your guidance on the addition. We’ve updated the edit request to include just the new information. Please see below and thank you for your consideration!

Extended content

History Add sentences with updated information on the recent merger with Gwinnett Health System. The addition to the end of the history section would read: In August 2019, the most recent expansion of Northside Hospital took effect with the merger of Northside Hospital and Gwinnett Health System. The merger expanded the Northside Hospital System to include 1,636 inpatient beds, over 250 outpatient locations and almost 21,000 employees and 3,500 physicians on staff. References

Thank you for your consideration. Taylorcanderson (talk) 21:57, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Reply 02-OCT-2019

  Unable to implement  

• The use of the phrase "the most recent" is deprecated per MOS:RELTIME.
• Please modify the request so that it uses (or refers to) time periods in a more standardized way (i.e., "the most recent expansion" being changed in favor of "the expansion which occurred in July of 2019", etc.)

Regards,  Spintendo  13:17, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Edit Request

NOTE: I am proposing this edit for FleishmanHillard on behalf of Northside Hospital. I am a paid editor and am aware of the COI guidelines. I am submitting this edit request to add information on a recent merger.

@Spintendo: Thanks for directing me to the guidelines. We’ve updated the edit request to not say "most recent". Please see below and thank you for your consideration!

Extended content

History Add sentences with updated information on the recent merger with Gwinnett Health System. The addition to the end of the history section would read: In August 2019, Northside Hospital expanded when the merger of Northside Hospital and Gwinnett Health System took effect. The merger expanded the Northside Hospital System to include 1,636 inpatient beds, over 250 outpatient locations and almost 21,000 employees and 3,500 physicians on staff. References

Thank you for your consideration. Taylorcanderson (talk) 14:19, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Revised Edit Request

NOTE: I am proposing this edit for FleishmanHillard on behalf of Northside Hospital. I am a paid editor and am aware of the COI guidelines. Based on previous feedback, I am submitting this revised edit request to add information on an August 2019 merger that isn’t included on the current page. The proposed addition has been edited for brevity and includes an additional source validating the merger. We took extra care to ensure this request followed all guidelines outlined in MOS:RELTIME throughout.

History

• Add two sentences to the end of the existing “History” section with information about the August 2019 merger between Northside Hospital and Gwinnett Health System.
• History section would now read:

Revised edit request
History In August 2019, Northside Hospital merged with Gwinnett Health System. The merger expanded the Northside Hospital network to more than 1,600 inpatient beds, 250 outpatient locations, 21,000 employees and 3,500 physicians. References

Thank you for your consideration. Taylorcanderson (talk) 17:52, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Reply 23-OCT-2019

  Edit request implemented    Spintendo  17:47, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Article ready for stub status if a non-press release indication of existence can be found

I have cleaned out all the press release sourced material. Wit a COI on the scene, let them do the work to find WP:RS reliable sources and suggest referenced text additions — Neonorange (Phil) 20:10, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Northside Hospital may very well be notable (it's a consortium or some other set of hospitals in the Atlanta metro area), but this was never an encyclopedic article, sourced as it was, only to press releases. An encyclopedic article should include what readers would like to know: procedure outcomes, authoritative ratings, regional economic impact, incorporation structure...

At the moment, a Google search on >Northside Hospital Atlanta<, first hit, page right, quotes this Wikipedia COI article, sourced to Northside Hospital press releases. — Neonorange (Phil) 15:07, 24 May 2021 (UTC)