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"The American Film Institute was founded by a 1965 presidential mandate announced in the Rose Garden of the White House by Lyndon B. Johnson—to establish a national arts organization to preserve the legacy of American film heritage, educate the next generation of filmmakers, and honor the artists and their work. Two years later, in 1967, AFI was established, supported by the National Endowment for the Arts, the Motion Picture Association of America and the Ford Foundation."

  • "UCLA Library Catalog Basic Search". cinema.library.ucla.edu.

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk06:47, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Norma Shearer with husband Irving Thalberg
Norma Shearer with husband Irving Thalberg
Quirk, Lawrence J. (1988). Norma : The Story of Norma Shearer (1st ed.). New York: St. Martin's Press. ISBN 0-312-01798-7. pp 193-194 ... (re the offer for her to play Scarlett O'Hara) Norma let Howard Strickland and the Selznick people spread the word via strategically placed items in the gossip columns, that she was leaning towards accepting the role. At that, her fans came alive - they flooded the mails from Maine to California, from Washington state to Florida, begging her to back off. The letters' basic tone was, "You're too nice a person to play such a bitch!" ... she decided ... to withdraw her name from consideration. Years later ... she indicated that her rejection of Scarlett might have been a major mistake

5x expanded by Maile66 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:25, 30 October 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • The list has been recently expanded, there are no copyvio or plagiarism concern, and reliable sources are used. I think a hook about The Divorcee could be more interesting, specifically about how she arranged a George Hurrell photoshoot to prove to her husband that she had the sex appeal necessary for the role. It would provide a stronger reason for why Shearer and her husband are pictured, and I just find it a hooky idea. I would also add that little factoid to the list's lead. That's just my suggestion as there is nothing wrong or bad about the suggested hook. I hope this helps. Aoba47 (talk) 23:59, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Maybe something like: ... that Norma Shearer (left) did a George Hurrell photoshoot to convince her husband Irving Thalberg (right) she had the sex appeal to star in The Divorcee? Aoba47 (talk) 00:29, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks. I am open to whatever works here. The hook you suggest is fine with me. Also, we could swap out images, if someone saw one that's better. I chose this image, mainly because it's so clear and would work on the main page. I do believe it's the best image of the two of them together. — Maile (talk) 00:43, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Aoba47: how about this?

  • I'm not sure what you are saying. The bolded link goes straight to the filmography, which includes the sourcing and mention of the hook information . Are you saying it should go to her bio, which is not the article I've nominated here? — Maile (talk) 18:03, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
*@Aoba47: since you suggested the ALT1 hook wording, you cannot approve the hook per Rule H2. We'll see if we need a new reviewer after we finish reformulating the hook. Yoninah (talk) 18:15, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for catching this. I'm OK with ALT2. — Maile (talk) 18:21, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Is it possible to restructure the article so that all the prose isn't in the lead? Including moving the detail for this hook down to the relevant section - the article is already nicely sectioned up, so it wouldn't be too much work. Or even a "acting style" or something section before the filmography. It's an impressive article, but doesn't meet MOS:LEAD. Kingsif (talk) 12:02, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Restructuring the layout isn't a DYK requirement, but lists are done with the prose at the top. Featured Lists are the role model for how this should be done. Please see John Barrymore on stage, screen and radio or Peter Sellers on stage, radio, screen and record. — Maile (talk) 12:19, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Kingsif: This is a standard format for a list article. We just have to check that there's a minimum of 1500 characters (or a 5x expansion) in the lead. Yoninah (talk) 12:37, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for explaining. Prose was 5x expanded on 30 October and hook is sourced. Kingsif (talk) 12:41, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]