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Piracetam nightmare-like side-effects

After seeing that the "Piracetam low toxity, no side-effects" harangue's also spread on the substance's Wikipedia page, I feel absolutely compelled to somehow publish and share a scary growing body of knowledge on nightmare-like side-effects reported by users on forums. I do feel so because of my hellish experience with a minimal dose of the substance. I wonder how this information may be correctly posted on the article.

User condensed knowledge on S.E.

http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/79881-piracetam-how-to-recover-from-its-ill-effects/

Forum discussion

http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/99723-the-curse-of-noopeptpiracetampramiracetamracetams/

Article maintenance tags removed

To whom it may concern:

I removed these tags from the article on the basis that the vast majority of the current article revision is well-cited to WP:MEDRS-quality PUBMED-indexed secondary sources and medical textbooks.

While I left the section tag for this in the Nootropic#Cholinergics section, it would be better to use the {{npsn}} tag (e.g., npsn-tagged text^{[non-primary source needed]}) or the {{medref-inline}} tag (e.g., medref-inline-tagged text^{[medical citation needed]}) to specify exactly where the problematic statements in the text are, as this helps other editors identify sourcing problems to fix.

Unless the article significantly expands (i.e., ≥2x byte count increase) without adequate medical sourcing, please don't re-add these maintenance templates (re: WP:DRIVEBY); doing otherwise is really not helpful to readers or other editors. Seppi333 (Insert 2¢) 02:20, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The tagging was done last June by an editor since blocked for socking. Odd. Bon courage (talk) 07:35, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sulbutiamine (B1 vitamin)

There is some research around Sulbutiamine ( synthetic derivative of thiamine ) (https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Sulbutiamine ) that it can be used as a nootropic 80.208.71.138 (talk) 16:47, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reason for removal of content

Why was my recent edit removed. The contents were supported by reliable pubmed research papers

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1176475346 Hu741f4 (talk) 23:22, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:MEDRS. Bon courage (talk) 23:24, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Those aren't primary sources. These research papers have been published in medical journals Hu741f4 (talk) 11:16, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please read MEDRS, and if it still makes no sense there's background material in WP:WHYMEDRS and WP:MEDFAQ. Bon courage (talk) 11:20, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If that is the case then this entire "Nutrients and supplement" section should be deleted. Because the rest of the contents also cite primary research Hu741f4 (talk) 11:25, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just looked at the first source there, PMID:26740832 and it's a review article, so you are incorrect. Bon courage (talk) 11:28, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]