Talk:Non-stick surface

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Other non-stick surfaces?

This article seems to imply that Teflon and compounds related to it are the only non stick surfaces. I believe there are others, and the article should be updated to reflect that. For example, some polyethylene formulas are non-stick. That is why it is often used as a backer on rolls of tape, or as the nozzle for caulk and glues. SlowJog (talk) 12:56, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Another reader comment: This article should be called "Non-stick Cooking Surfaces." As already mentioned, there are many types of non-stick surfaces used for many other applications other than cooking--engineering applications for instance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.129.192.84 (talk) 17:35, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Link 19 does not lead to a resource that justifies the statement to which the link is associated. The resource is not accessible — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.207.208.161 (talk) 14:12, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Article?

The topic is rather vague, and as others have explained oddly pre-occupied with teflon.JohndanR (talk) 05:22, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ceramic Non-stick

I use the ceramic nonstick pans quite effectively. It's important to clean the oil off of the pan. I use copper brillo pads that are softer material that the ceramic and harder that the carbon or gummed oil that may be deposited. However I can find absolutely zero knowledge about these ceramic coatings online. Just "Buy Me! Ohh shiney shiney!" and nothing about the process or materials what so ever.198.2.4.2 (talk) 18:11, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ceramic coating

this sentence in the lede is good: "In the twenty-first century, other coatings have been marketed as non-stick, such as anodized aluminium, ceramics, silicone, enameled cast iron, and seasoned cookware." But the link to ceramics is misleading as the linked article has nothing to do with pans marketed as "ceramic non stick coating", instead it is about pottery. this page is informative about "ceramic nonstick pans": https://www.thekitchn.com/ceramic-pans-260086. my suggestion would be to either create an article of its own for ceramic non stick cookware or add a paragraph to this article to the same effect. the link to the pottery related article should be removed from this article as it is not what it means in this context. i would delete the link myself, but it makes little sense to do it before the needed info is added to WP, because...

whatever i will just do it. so next comes: 1, deletion of the wrong link; 2 add a sentence or two to this article. though the source is not exactly what i would call a good encyclopedical source, it will do for the beginning. 89.134.199.32 (talk) 21:02, 10 January 2021 (UTC).[reply]

OK, so i did delete the misleadink link from ceramics, and i succesfully added like 2 sentences in a new heading about ceramic nonstick pans. What is wrong with it: instead of making it a new paragraph i managed somehow to add it as a subparagraph to the end of the teflon paragraph. it sould be otherwise but i have no idea how it is done and therefore i would like to rely on someone with a better expertise in editing to make it an indivoidual paragraph. The info is taken from the link above but i added no footmark again because thats beyond my editing skills. So please if you can, add those details to the finish. Cheers. 89.134.199.32 (talk) 21:18, 10 January 2021 (UTC).[reply]

One more remark: the source said the coating is made of silicone but then goes on saying it is basically sand. Silicone is a chemical element, a semi metal if memory serves well, while silicone dioxide is a stable chemical compound abundant in nature and this is what what sand, glass, and many ceramic materials are based on. so i ignored the source saying its silicone because that's an obviously sloppy way to say what then the source goes on to say that it is really silicone dioxide. Still i am not hundred percent sure it is correct, because the source imho is not a scientifically reputable one, so please feel free to correct this and add some better source. 89.134.199.32 (talk) 21:25, 10 January 2021 (UTC).[reply]

No, silicon is a chemical element and silicon dioxide (= silica) is the main ingredient of glass and sand. Silicone is a mixed inorganic and organic polymer which is used for non-stick bakeware, but not non-stick pans. If you don't know the difference between silicon and silicone, you really shouldn't be editing this article. --Macrakis (talk) 22:01, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for correcting the spelling. Also theres a WP page that should imho be listed in the see also section: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Cookware_and_bakeware#Coating as it is overlapping with this article's topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.134.199.32 (talk) 20:58, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mycenean

The article contained a section about Mycenean griddles. But the researchers say "while the popular press has frequently described these vessels as "non-stick", this is a bit of an exaggeration". In fact, the non-stick effect in her experiments is caused by oil.^[1] So I have removed that section. --Macrakis (talk) 23:19, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

^ Julie Hruby, "Finding haute cuisine: Identifying shifts in food styles from cooking vessels", chapter 3 in Julie Hruby, Debra Trusty, eds., From Cooking Vessels to Cultural Practices in the Late Bronze Age Aegean

Ceramic Coating: Decay Temperature

It is claimed that ceramic non-stick coatings start to break down at 370 °C. This does not make sense, since according to the previous paragraph they're applied at 2000 °C. The claim is supposed to be supported by source [21]. There it is mentioned that it can withstand up to 700F (~370°C), which doesn't mean that it starts to break down at higher temperatures. Gnampfissimo (talk) 15:09, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Contradictory PTFE stability temperatures

Under the heading of Health Concerns it is stated that PTFE begins to dissociate above 260C (500F) whereas,

Under the heading of Ceramic it is stated that PTFE begins to break down at about 370C (700F) ProfDrEngrPaul (talk) 12:25, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Julie Hruby, "Finding haute cuisine: Identifying shifts in food styles from cooking vessels", chapter 3 in Julie Hruby, Debra Trusty, eds., From Cooking Vessels to Cultural Practices in the Late Bronze Age Aegean

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