Talk:Non-attached members/Archive 1

Archive 1

Plural name?

Usually article titles are in singular form. I would expect this article to be Non-inscrit, therefore. Is it the case that English uses "Non-inscrits" for the singular as well, because of some arcane reason? --Orzetto 12:21, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

UKIP

UKIP are in Independence and Democracy.--Horses In The Sky 20:00, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, Kilroy-Silk has since moved on to become an independent as well . Intangible 20:26, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Seating

Do these guys sit together? --84.30.97.206 08:56, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Change in affiliation

Both Italian Socialist Party - New PSI MEPs are now with the Socialist Group. --Free Socialist 23:55, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Daniel Hannan

Should Daniel Hannan now be added to this section and removed from the EPP-ED? Tozznok (talk) 00:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

ITS

What is the relevance of the section about this particular grouping in an article on MEPs who don't belong to any group? Rojomoke (talk) 09:27, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Tom Wise

MEP Wise was suspended from UKIP in 2007,[1] left IND/DEM in June 2008,[2] now sits as an Independent[3][4] amongst the Non-Inscrits,[5][6][7] and no longer appears on the UKIP website as a UKIP MEP.[8] Regards, Anameofmyveryown (talk) 01:43, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Use in other institutions than European parliament

Just stumbled upon this problem since Non-attached is being forwarded to this page: There are Non-attached MPs as well in the National Council of Austria as in the Federal Council of Austria. In other parliaments maybe as well? Independent (politician) isn't quite the right article for it (since they are all member of parties, just not strong enough to form a group of their own in parliament), so what should I do? Just change the article so that it's clear the term is not just used in the European Parliament, or create a new one ("Non-Inscrits" as a specific term only being used by the European Parliament, as far as I'm aware)...? --Completefailure (talk) 21:49, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm guessing (but could be wrong) that the fact the name is French comes from French politics, there are indeed non-inscrits at the French Assemblée Nationale : http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/qui/xml/organe.asp?id_organe=/13/tribun/xml/xml/organes/387155.xml , so it's not specific to the EP Aesma (talk) 12:54, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Expelled party members

Shouldn't MEPs like Mario Borghezio, who is a member of Lega Nord national party, be listed as a NI because the Europe of Freedom and Democracy group expelled him, even though Lega Nord is still part of the group? Europarl lists him as NI. The current table, which is party-centric, is not set up for this. Int21h (talk) 15:49, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

On a related note, what does the "EU party" column even mean? How can some members of a national party be members of a EU party, while others are not? Int21h (talk) 15:56, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

See European political party. Place Clichy (talk) 11:50, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Lega Nord was never part of EFD or EFDD. Place Clichy (talk) 11:50, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Robert Iwaszkiewicz

1. Robert Iwaszkiewicz is not a member of KNP but a member from Coalition for the Renewal of the Republic - Freedom and Hope (korwin).

2. Robert Iwaszkiewicz is not Non-Inscrit but a member of EFDD83.80.208.22 (talk) 09:57, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Former members

It is not a good idea to add former Members in the normal table. if necessary Create a separate table83.80.208.22 (talk) 10:22, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

It is an even worse idea to remove them. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a directory, and presents facts in a historical perspective. For this reason, membership tables cover an entire legislature (with a note for people who change affiliation), and not the "current" composition. The concepts of "current" or "now" are not encyclopaedic, they are a piece of news. Place Clichy (talk) 11:09, 16 June 2015 (UTC)