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Reviewer: Nick-D (talk · contribs) 05:29, 26 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Comments

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It's good to see this article at GAN, and I'm pleased to be reviewing it. As a bit of a disclaimer, I'm going to be out of town for a week from Friday, but I will be checking in regularly, so it might take me a bit longer than best practice to finish the review. I have the following comments:

  • I'd suggest including a short explanation of what the Article XV squadrons were in the first part of the History section
  • Was "No. 260/450 Squadron" an emergency measure used to reinforce the RAF units operating in Syria when the invasion proved much more difficult than expected? (from memory, lots of ad-hoc units were rushed to the theatre at about this time)
    • Not sure, sorry, I've added a little bit more about 260 not having any ground personnel, but beyond that I haven't found anything that specifically states this. I'd say you are right, and I've looked through my photocopies of the Eather and Barnes sources and the pdfs of Herington, but they all seem silent on this (unless I've missed something). Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 05:18, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • The para starting with "The squadron remained active for most of the war" breaks up the narrative flow a bit given it jumps ahead to 1943 in parts, and notes the squadron's final status - can its contents be moved to other sections? (for instance, the statistic for Feb 1942-May 1943 might best belong at the end of the material on the unit's role in North Africa and Tunisia)
  • When did the Squadron move to Malta and commence operations over Sicily?
  • "Following the Allied victory in Sicily on 1 August, Nos. 450 and 3 Squadrons moved to Agnone, near Catania, where they commenced close air support operations, working closely with Allied ground units." - given that there was a pause in land operations while the 8th Army prepared to cross the strait of Messina on 3 September (Operation Baytown), this is a bit inaccurate: did the squadron take part in the operations to prepare for the crossing?
  • "during which its aircraft sunk to vessels" - *cough* *cough* ;)
  • "where they were briefly withdrawn" - "they" or "it"? - I think that "it" might work better given that you're talking about the unit as a whole here
  • Can more material be added on the unit's operations in the second half of 1944 and early 1945? - this seems a bit light-on
  • Can you discuss the proportion of the squadron's personnel who were Australian? (the official history might have some point in time figures)
  • As a comment more dedicated to preparing the article for an ACR, are there any in-air shots of 450 Sqn aircraft which can be used? The current ones are pretty similar to one another. Nick-D (talk) 07:13, 26 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • To answer my own question: from a quick look at the collection database, probably not. I rather like this photo though for what it's worth - it's an interesting shot of how aircraft were maintained in the field! This group photo from what I imagine is the end of the war is also rather good (though I suspect that the caption is wrong and it doesn't show all members of the unit). Nick-D (talk) 11:01, 26 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • Tks so much for comments, Nick, and Rupert for addressing most of them, as I've been a little preoccupied recently... ;-) I know the first point about describing Article XV isn't actioned yet, happy to take that later today, Rupert, unless you want to. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 02:45, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        • Thanks for your comments, Nick. I've uploaded one of those photos to Commons, and the other already appears to be there: [1] Ian, I'm happy to use them if you are, but it would probably mean that we would have to lose the second crest image. That would probably free up room for the image of the aircraft at Malta: [2]. Ian, if you wouldn't mind adding a bit about the Article XV squadrons, that would be fantastic. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 05:18, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment

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GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

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