Talk:Nishina Morinobu

Merge with the misguided "Takeda Nobumori" page

I had been pressing for the removal of the "Takeda Nobumori" page because the story told there was in clear contracdiction with the confirmed whereabouts of Shingen's fourth son and successor, Takeda Katsuyori (武田 勝頼). As I trace the anecdote cited there about the Takeda commander cutting off the nose and ears of the monk sent by the Oda commander, I found that the story was actually about Nishina Morinobu (仁科 盛信), Shingen's fifth son and the commander of Takatoo Castle (高遠城).

In sum, the mistakes in the original version of the said page include:

• Incorrectly records the name of "Morinobu" (盛信) as "Nobumori" (信守), hence confusing him with irrelavent historical figures bearing the same name;
• States that Morinobu was the fourth son of Shingen -- in fact, the fourth son was Katsuyori, and Morinobu was the fifth son of Shingen;
• States that Morinobu became the ruler of the Takeda clan "following the death of Katsuyori" -- in fact, Morinobu never had a chance to "rule" the Takeda clan because he himself died in advance of Katsuyori, and the designated successor of Katsuyori was his son, Nobukatsu (信勝);
• There was no such a place as "the Shinano castle" -- the castle Morinobu fortified himself in was Takatoo Castle (高遠城) in southern Shinano;
• It was Oda Nobutada (織田 信忠), the designated successor of Nobunaga (信長) and commander of the Oda forces, who send the monks, not Nobunaga himself.

Hence, I propose to merge the "Takeda Nobumori" page into the current page.Fuenping (talk) 20:56, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of Takeda Nobumori has been proposed

Takeda Nobumori really has nothing to do with this article except the story about Nishina Morinobu's refusal to surrender that was wrongly planted under that title. Therefore, I have proposed the deletion of Takeda Nobumori instead of a merger or redirection. Besides, the very little contents of the other article have already been incorporated into this one anyways.