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[edit]At the bottom of this page there is a link to another deity from another culture and time period. You'd think they would be related with each other, by origin or regarding their theme. But it's never clear why there is such a link in the first place, as "Nidaba" is not referred to again in the article about Sarasvati.
My question is: Are those links simply sort-of-associative? So if a deity shares similar aspects with another it deserves a link, or is there some theory of origin or something here that I missed? These unexplained links confuse me. Thanks. 84.129.159.22 (talk)
- You are right, without context these two links are very confusing. They are both gods from different belief systems that have something to do with "writing". According to the Wikpedia manual of style: A reasonable number of relevant links that would be in the body of a hypothetical "perfect article" are suitable to add to the "See also" appendix of a less developed one. Whether these two should be in the article is debatable, the connection is quite superficial. Enki H. (talk) 06:11, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
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Nidaba vs. Nisaba
[edit]At present, the article is titled "Nidaba" with Nisaba given as an alternate reading of the cuneiform sign NAGA in the goddess' name. However, almost every source I've found uses Nisaba. A Google Scholar search for "Nidaba Sumerian" gives around 300 results, while a search for "Nisaba Sumerian" gives over 1,000 results. Restricting this search to the past 5 years only, the difference is an order of magnitude (~20 vs. ~200). (Apparently there is an Assyriology researcher named Nisaba, so I tried to exclude citations from the search, but this might not work perfectly if they are mentioned in the text). It seems that Nisaba is in prevailing use. Should the name of this article change, or is there a compelling recent source arguing that Nidaba is actually correct? Dinoguy2 (talk) 11:16, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Dinoguy2: Nisaba appears to be, by far, the more common spelling of her name. The book Gods, Demons and Symbols of Ancient Mesopotamia: An Illustrated Dictionary by Jeremy Black and Anthony Green, which was one of the main sources I used while I was writing the article "List of Mesopotamian deities," only calls her "Nisaba." The names of ancient Mesopotamian deities do generally tend to have a lot of different spellings, though, so my guess is that the person who originally created this article probably just happened to have one of the few sources that call her "Nidaba" and so that is what they decided to call the article. I would say it would be a good idea to move this article from "Nidaba" to "Nisaba." —Katolophyromai (talk) 07:03, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
Consort
[edit]Must be my week for god questions. The excavators of Tell Harmal, in Sumer [1], said that the consort of Nisaba was a Khani. If that is out of date knowledge I'll fix the Shaduppum article.Ploversegg (talk) 22:10, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- Seems to be a vintage reading that has since been updated, and the Tell Harmal deity in mention is simply Haya (there should be a breve under the h), I think there's a direct statement to that effect in one of the Weeden articles listed in that wiki entry. I will double check when I am home in about 9-10 hours. HaniwaEnthusiast (talk) 05:47, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
I followed your bread crumbs to Haya and saw "The reading Hani is no longer considered to be correct." which in retrospect means that I should have been smart enough to find my way there via the Nisaba article and figure this out myself, which is embarrassing. I'll try to think more before I ask next time. Of course in the process of freshening Shaduppum I noticed that the next door site article I wrote claimed that Tell al-Dhiba'i has a god named Lamisu/Lammisu who is a version of Kash/Kesh according to the excavators etc (example - [2]). I's see if I can figure out who that really is. Thanks for the assistance.Ploversegg (talk) 23:23, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
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