Talk:Nicolas d'Angennes

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Marquis

Nicolas was not a marquis. It was his son Charles who became marquis in 1612. Johanraymond (talk) 15:53, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for flagging, I have just conducted a brief review of all the books I used to write this article. I believe the error derived from 'Les Guise' by J.M Constant, who on page 17 refers to "Nicolas et Louis d'Angennes, respectivement marq2uis de Rambouillet et seigneur de Maintenon"

I will amend the title to 'sieur' as that appears to the most commonly way it is rendered in the literature. sovietblobfish (talk) 16:53, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daughter of royal treasurer

Hi @BD2412:, Is there a citation you have on hand to support the parentage as concerns this treasurer?

sovietblobfish (talk) 22:05, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sovietblobfish: According to François-René de Chateaubriand, in his Mémoires d'Outre-Tombe, "One of Cottereau's daughters brought the Maintenon domain into the d'Angennes family" (i.e., the Château de Maintenon). See "The Project Gutenberg eBook of The Memoirs of François René de Vicomte de Chateaubriand volume 6 (of 6), by François René de Chateaubriand". www.gutenberg.org. BD2412 T 22:32, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for getting back on this one. The wording of the source is a little vague, but I think we can use it given the information we already have in the article from more concrete sources. sovietblobfish (talk) 23:05, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have dug around and found a better one that confirms this: The Biographical Dictionary of the Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge, Volume 2, Issue 2 (1843), p. 723, stating that Jacques d'Angennes "married, 13th February, 1526, Isabeau, or Isabelle, Cotereau, or Cottereau, daughter of Jean, chevalier seigneur de Maintenon". Of particular interest, this source identifies two other children of Jacques and Isabelle that it deems their most notable, Charles d'Angennes de Rambouillet and Claude d'Angennes. BD2412 T 02:00, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That makes sense, both of those two had important political roles in this period. Isabelle and Jacques had a lot of politically active children, the seigneur de Maintenon was also quite politically prominent. sovietblobfish (talk) 09:38, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]