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First European residents of New Orleans

John Peter Salley was an explorer from Virginia who, while he was exploring the Mississippi in the early 1740's, was taken prisoner, according to his own testimony, by French allied "Negros and Native Indians" and brought to New Orleans where he was imprisoned for 'two years'. While in custody, he befriends the common New Orlean citizen who on average was suffering under the oppressive administration of the French Governor. Those who had been there longest claimed that the French were not the first to make a town at that location. Here is Salley's words,

"One thing I had almost forgot, Viz. we were told by some of the French who first settled there, that about forty years ago, when the French first discovered the place, and made attempt to settle therein, there were then pretty many English settled on both sides of the River Missisippi, and one Twenty Gun Ship lay in the River, what became of the Ship we did not hear, but we were informed that the English Inhabitants were all destroyed by the Natives by the Instigation of the French."

New Orleans Saints and Super Bowl XLIV

Given the positive impact the Saints' Super Bowl XLIV victory will have on the city as it continues it's post-Hurricane Katrina recovery, I propose mentioning the victory under the history section of the article. 17:55, 8 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.227.113.17 (talk)

Mitch Landrieu elected mayor

Lt. Gov. Mitch Landrieu was elected mayor in elections on Feb. 6 with 66 percent of the vote. [1] [2] Viscousmellophone (talk) 04:27, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Edit request

{{editsemiprotected}} The caption accompanying the collage photo says that the streetcar is in front of Tulane University, when in fact, it is in front of Loyola, the university neighboring Tulane. Jeremyliem (talk) 18:47, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

This guy is right. That's not Tulane. That's Loyola. Please correct. Oh, and to be very specific that is the Holy Name of Jesus Church on Loyola's campus.


Edit request

{{editsemiprotected}} the mayor in new orleans is Mitchell Joseph "Mitch" Landrieu

74.240.150.211 (talk) 01:38, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

He is only the mayor-elect. Will be changed on May 3 when he is sworn in.  fetchcomms☛ 01:50, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Edit request follow-up: Mayor Landrieu has been sworn in as mayor. Springhill40 (talk) 12:44, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Battle of New Orleans (War of 1812)

I revised the paragraph talking about the battle to include the strength of the British force attacking New Orleans. I've also removed this section, as whoever wrote it is in serious need of a history book:

"However, it should be noted that the British were unprepared for hostilities and were not themselves trying to attack Jackson's forces, as the war had ended with a peace treaty some weeks earlier. The peace was known to the British, while Jackson claimed not to know the war was already over."

News of the war's end didn't reach either side in the South until February.

"The armies were unaware that the Treaty of Ghent had ended the war on December 24, 1814." - This statement is incorrect as while the treaty was signed in December, it was not ratified until the following February. Until ratified, the treaty was not valid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.250.224.34 (talk) 19:34, 7 July 2010 (UTC) Battleax86 (talk) 08:15, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Edit Request

Under the section "Beginnings through the 19th Century" the statement "All of the surviving 18th century architecture of the Vieux Carré (French Quarter) dates from this Spanish period." is not quite true. At least two buildings (the old Ursuline Convent and Lafitte's Blacksmith Shop) predate the Spanish period and I suggest that the wording in this article be changed from "All of the surviving..." to "Most of the surviving..." to improve accuracy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.128.103.249 (talk) 16:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Tourism

I've added the fact that New Orleans was voted first runner up in being gay-friendly, which was a result in the already mentioned cnn poll. I think it is an important thing in this article, for that was, for me at least, the reason to visit this article. Never been in the South before, and the last thing I want is being part of some hostile atmosphere or something like that. This I knew I saw it mentioned in an article about NO somewhere, but I just couldn't figure out whether it was on wikipedia or wikitravel. Anyhow, I think it is just a tiny line that is worth mentioning in this article. :) Robster1983 (talk) 17:09, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Add bicycle subsection to transportation section?

I think there should be a bicycle subsection. New Orleans ranks as one of the top 10 bike/pedestrian cities in the U.S.. There are plenty of sources talking about the recent additions of bike lanes (like on St. Charles and St. Claude) and expensive bike trails/ways (like McAlister Place, New Orleans and the one in City Park). Also, I saw a book with photos of all the funky bicycles that can be found in NOLA. I think this subsection should definitely have a photo of one of these bikes. Check out some of the crazy NOLA bikes on FLICKR, like double decker bikes, and bikes with very unique New Orleans beads and artwork. Isn't there a built-your-own bike warehouse in the Marigny? 71.161.242.92 (talk) 06:43, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

I tend to disagree. Transportation sections of cities typically include only transport modes that are supported by major infrastructure. There needs to be considerably more notability around NO's bicycles and bicycle culture before it should reach the level of notability necessary to have its own section within the article. For comparison's sake, Denver, Austin and San Francisco article pages don't have subsections on cycling -- and they likely merit such treatment before New Orleans would. Addition of a few bike lanes likely isn't sufficient. For instance, Boulder Colorado does merit such a section because it has far more infrastructure and usage -- hundreds of miles of bike paths, routes, lanes underpasses along with significant biking culture and events. New Orleans would need greater amounts of things involving biking to make it similarly notable. Also, could you sign your Talk entries? WmLawson (talk) 20:25, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
I agree with 71.161.242.92. I don't think that the Denver et al. Wikipedia entries are dispositive here. (I also doubt that people casually bike as much in Denver, Austin, or San Fran, as compared to in New Orleans, in part because those cities are either hilly or too-cold for half the year.) In any event, a brief review of these entries, along with the Boulder entry (which includes a cycling paragraph worth looking at), indicates that every city is organizing its transportation section slightly differently. New Orleans has dedicated sections for transportation modes like "Buses" (not a unique aspect of the city), but does not include a biking section. Meanwhile, NOLA is a top 10 city in terms of bicycle and pedestrian traffic. As an Uptown bicyclist, I can attest to the fact that NOLA probably has the same # of bicycling events and organizations as does Boulder. Also, the artistic New Orleans bicycles are truly unique to this city, as far as I can tell. I have lived in, and traveled to, countless places and have never seen such a prevalence of bicycle decorations; and certainly not with such a local flare. The description of this book is worth checking out, for support of this observation. Granted, the use of bicycles and especially bicycle decorations, does appear concentrated in the Sliver by the River parts of the city (Uptown to the Bywater) -- but this is also where most of the city now lives. 504kid (talk) 21:31, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

proposed addition... to be titled "Bicycling"

The City's flat landscape, simple street grid, and mild winters, facilitate bicycle ridership, helping to make New Orleans eighth among U.S. cities in its rate of bicycle and pedestrian transportation.[1] Also, the City's bicyclists benefit from being located at the start of the Mississippi River Trail, a 3000-mile bicycle path that stretches from the City's Audubon Park to Minnesota.[2] The first 25 miles of the path, through Destrehan, Louisiana, is paved with a smooth macadam surface. Bicyclists looking to cross the River have free access to the City's ferries.[3] Since the 2005 levee-breach, the City has actively sought to promote bicycling by constructing a $1.5 million bike trail from Mid-City to Lake Pontchartrain,[4] and by adding over 37 miles of bicycle lanes to various streets, including St. Charles Avenue.[5] In 2009, Tulane University contributed to these efforts by converting the main street through its Uptown campus, McAlister Place, into a pedestrian mall opened to bicycle traffic.[6]

New Orleans has also been recognized as a place with an abundance of uniquely decorated and uniquely designed bicycles.[7] It is common for New Orleans bicyclists to decorate their bikes with local flare, such as Mardi Gras beads and fleur-de-lis stickers and fixtures.[8] Additionally, some residents affix other personal memorabilia to their bicycles,[9][10] or even create unique forms of the bicycle (such as double-decker bicycles),[11] through the help of Plan B, an open-community workshop for bicycle repair and alteration.[12]

504kid (talk) 01:29, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't see why we need to have a paragraph on how people in New Orleans decorate their bikes. Decorating bikes certainly isn't unique to this city, and I think California cities are far better known in that respect. Not to mention New Orleans people will slap beads and a fleur-de-lis on anything that can't outrun them. It's likely off-topic for a city page, and even in a subsection on bike transportation. But I do like the first paragraph. Mdlawmba (talk) 21:17, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your feedback! 504kid (talk) 10:07, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
I don't think most New Orleans people would agree that we'd slap beads on anything... Maybe you can get your info from some place other than Fake World New Orleans on MTV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.217.202.107 (talk) 16:53, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
I just added the Bicycling section and omitted the last few sentences above (about the uniqueness of the bikes). 504kid (talk) 03:20, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ http://www.nola.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2010/05/bicycle_second_line_celebrates.html
  2. ^ http://www.mississippirivertrail.org/map.html
  3. ^ http://www.friendsoftheferry.org/
  4. ^ http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/10/wisner_bike_path_opens_today.html
  5. ^ http://www.nola.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2010/05/bicycle_second_line_celebrates.html
  6. ^ http://tulane.edu/oua/mcalister-place.cfm
  7. ^ http://markbattypublisher.com/books/new-orleans-bicycles/
  8. ^ http://www.flickr.com/photos/8784846@N08/3894377354/
  9. ^ http://www.flickr.com/photos/landeng/3992834841/
  10. ^ http://www.flickr.com/photos/fijidan/33292509/
  11. ^ http://www.flickr.com/photos/infrogmation/4521544331/
  12. ^ http://www.bikeproject.org/

Edit request from Arielfarrar, 7 September 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} I think that http://nolavietnamese.wordpress.com/ should be added to the external links section. It is a webportal about Vietnamese culture in New Orleans.

Arielfarrar (talk) 21:09, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Not done: Unless it is actually being used asa a reference, it can't be added because Wikipedia is not a collection of links. Thanks, Stickee (talk) 02:02, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Treehuggress, 7 November 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} "Errol Morris" should read "Errol Williams" source: http://www.errollgwilliams.com/web/ Treehuggress (talk) 08:52, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Done Spitfire19 T/C 05:36, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Edit Request from RogBeGone, 8 November 2010

According to the Times-Picayune, New Orleans' population was estimated at 354,850 by July 2009. Editing the chart to reflect that would be nice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RogBeGone (talk • contribs) 21:27, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Local pronunciations

I'm a yankee, so take this with a grain of salt, but the prevailing dialect of English spoken in Nawlins is a non-rhotic dialect of English; representing the pronunciation with turned-r in the syllable coda seems totally wrong to me. Excalibre (talk) 04:10, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Change of City Website

Since the Landrieu administration has taken office, the primary URL of the city website has changed. Cityofno.com now redirects to nola.gov. It's a little more professional than that train wreck URL (City of No... really?!) the Nagin administration saddled our fair burg with. Could someone please update at least the visible addresses in the article? Thanks! 98.164.114.43 (talk) 16:40, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Sister Cities

Among the sister cities, Isola Liri, Italy should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Syd00 (talk • contribs) 10:28, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

I have heard on tv that a lot of New Orleans residents want Brisbane to be made a sister city in response to the Queensland floods. Does anyone know if this has become official or is it just resident good wishes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.43.180 (talk) 21:03, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Hurricane Katrina change

I have changed the first sentence from: "New Orleans was catastrophically impacted by the failure of the Federal levee system during Hurricane Katrina in 2005" to: "New Orleans was catastrophically impacted by Hurricane Katrina in 2005, in which the levee system that protects New Orleans from flooding, failed, allowing Katrina to more fully affect the city." The city was catastrophically impacted by the floodwaters of Katrina, and Katrina was the whole reason behind this. And there is no such thing called the "Federal levee system", and the source doesn't mention that either. Here's what the source DOES say: "No city, not even New Orleans, has ever sustained as much damage from a single hurricane as Galveston, Texas, did on September 8, 1900." The source does mention the levees, which are important, but the most important factor was the hurricane. If a cop dies, the shooter is named first, and then the maker of the faulty bullet-proof vest. Shicoco (talk) 06:37, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Also, there are many people who are very angry at the levees' failure, and it seems that they edited Wikipedia and made it a bit on the non-neutral side. In the previous version, Wikipedia was blaming the federal government by mentioning the "Federal levee system" (no such thing with this title exists). This does not appear neutral, and as this is a big controversy, with many people blaming many different people, from the Feds, to the mayor of New Orleans, to termites in the levees, etc etc, this article needs to stay on a neutral note. The logical thing to give the main blame to is the hurricane, and is also the neutral thing to do. The proper blame cycle goes Katrina>breaks weak levees>let in Katrina's floodwaters>flood city. The fact that Mother Nature can't be held responsible in a court of law doesn't matter. Shicoco (talk) 06:54, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Disagree. Multiple studies in the years since the disaster have increasingly confirmed and clarified that the overwhelming majority of the flooding was due to an engineering failure rather than a weather disaster; specifically the role of the MRGO and the improper engineering of the levees which failed to compensate for the increased vulnerability due to the canals. Detailed discussion IMO would be better on the relevent disaster article rather than this general NOLA article, but the summary here should show the consensus of the research of the 5+ years since the disaster. -- Infrogmation (talk) 21:36, 13 February 2011 (UTC)


Edit request from Moncole, 2 April 2011

The following text appears in the "Climate" section.

Indeed, portions of Greater New Orleans have been flooded by: Grand Isle Hurricane of 1909 ,[57] New Orleans Hurricane of 1915 ,[57] 1947 Fort Lauderdale Hurricane ,[57] Hurricane Flossy[58] in 1956, Hurricane Betsy in 1965, Hurricane Georges in 1998, Hurricane Katrina in 2005, Hurricane Rita in 2005, and Hurricane Ike in 2008, with the flooding in Betsy being significant and in a few neighborhoods severe, and that in Katrina being disastrous in the majority of the city.[59][60][61]

The reference to Hurricane Ike is incorrect as this hurricane primarily impacted the Texas Gulf Coast and not Louisiana. Instead, it was Hurricane Gustav that flooded New Orleans during the 2008 Atlantic hurricane season.

Moncole (talk) 03:56, 2 April 2011 (UTC)moncole, April 2, 2011

Done My reading of the articles on the two hurricanes supports your position, so I made the change. Monty845 08:15, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Demographics

I see this sometimes. Its called complacency. Since when, did Demographics not include the Gender Ratio?! That is the first variable that should be given, and here, despite the hurricane disaster, it is not even mentioned. Can someone please rectify this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.100.215.127 (talk) 11:36, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Leighladneche, 22 August 2011

Please Add NewOrleans.Com "The Official New Orleans Travel Site" TM http://www.neworleans.com to the external links -- Leighladneche (talk) 17:11, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Not done: It's a spam site, you have no chance - see WP:ELNO. --Biker Biker (talk) 17:17, 22 August 2011 (UTC)


Nyew Orleans

Hey, registered users. You need to change the very first "phonetic symbols" in the article. They suggest that the city's name is pronounced "nju" orleans, which is not the case. Few people in New Orleans or elsewhere in the USA pronounce the word "new" as [nju]. Rather, the word is pronounced [nu]. Please correct this. Thanks! Signed, an American. 85.77.32.76 (talk) 20:19, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Land Areas

I see that the city measures 180.6 square miles in area in terms of land. I've always wondered, however, if the city has any information on how much of that is developed? I'd imagine that there are wide swaths of the city to the northeast of the urban part that are either lightly developed, or incapable of being developed. It seems this would be an interesting fact to add if we can find it out, as it would kind of distort the official population density for the city. There are only a few other major cities with large swaths of undeveloped land (i.e. mountains, swamps, etc...) --Criticalthinker (talk) 07:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, Eastern New Orleans includes some minimally developed land, and the wild wetlands of the Bayou Sauvage National Wildlife Refuge -- within the city limits. -- Infrogmation (talk) 22:08, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I understand that, but does the city have an official stat on how much of New Orlean's 180.6 square miles if developed? --Criticalthinker (talk) 02:35, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Good question. If there is an "official stat", I'm not familiar with it. If such were being compiled at present, another issue is the areas which have been de-facto "de-developed" -- former urbanized areas ruined and demolished after the Katrina levee failure disaster. There are areas, especially in the Lower 9th Ward but to a lesser extent in other parts of the city, where for block after block everything was demolished and nothing new built in the years since. No doubt what to do about these areas will have to be addressed in the future (parks, community gardens, redevelopment?), but a present the city's street grid contains many blocks of fields of weeds. -- Infrogmation (talk) 18:23, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Well, I wasn't talking about developed areas destroyed by weather or general decline -- heck, a third of the land in my hometown of Detroit is either filled with abanonded homes or vacant of any property, but still zoned for development -- but how much of the city's land is zoned for natural usage like the Bayou Sauvage National Wildlife Refuge. I thank you for bringing at up, though, because apparently, it's about 36 square miles all by itself and I believe totally within Orleans Parish. So, that brings the total usuable land area down to about 145 square miles. Is there any there significantly sized area in the northeast part of the city like that? --Criticalthinker (talk) 01:14, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Errant photo caption

Photo captioned, "Skyline of New Orleans Central Business District as viewed from Uptown (1991)" actually looks like it's taken closer to Gertown than Uptown. If the Superdome is left of the Shell building, then you're not in Uptown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.96.106.106 (talk) 16:55, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 4 October 2012

Daer Sir/ Ma'am...

I am interested editing the sentence which uses the word "proper" to describe New Orleans. A real New Orleanian would never describe New Orleans by using the word "proper." New Orleanians will always acknowledge that you are either in New Orleans or you are not in New Orleans. Chalmette, Arabi, Westwego, and Metearie, for instance, is not New Orleans. The inclusive term that we use is Greater New Orleans. Within the city limits is always used and not "proper." This is how we have described our city for the past centuries. Like many in New Orleans, my family line in New Orleans goes back so far that there is no recollction when they arrived in New Orleans or where they came from. My ancestors helped to created New Orleans, and I am interested in seeing that the way we have always described New Orleans is reflected in this article. The use of the word "proper" is inappropriate and not representative of how we define our culture. The use of "city limits" is proper.

Thank You

Usaforrest (talk) 19:36, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

"I know it to be true because I live here" is not a valid reason to change an article in the absence of reliable sourcing. "City proper" is a common term in the English language that is meant to differentiate a major city's city limits from its metropolitan area which includes suburban areas. Although I disagree with the rationale behind it, your request is benign enough, so I have removed the two uses of the word "proper" in the article. Done —KuyaBriBriTalk 21:13, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

October 2012

Please change the link from [[AT&T]] to [[AT&T Inc.|AT&T]] for simplifying disambiguation, per Talk:AT&T#Incoming links to AT&T. 12.153.112.21 (talk) 03:29, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Done. Corporate 12:44, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Fix lead naming attribution

Can you fix the lead so it has the naming attribution to the Duke of Orleans? Its in the prose but the lead has this sentence: 'The city is named after Orléans, a city located on the Loire River in Centre, France...', which by my checking of sources isn't correct. Thanks! Kirk (talk) 16:52, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Update the Crime Section

At the bottom of section 8 please add:

The murder rate climbed 14% higher in 2011 to 57.88 per 100,000[1] retaining its status as the 'Murder Capital of the United States' and rising to 21st in the world.[2] This increase means that the murder rate of New Orleans is over 3/8ths as high as notable U.S.- Mexico border city Juarez. Khaki54 (talk) 18:32, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Partly done: I have added the the first two sentences for you, but did not add the latter because there is no reliable source given to ensure the content in question is verifiable. TBrandley (what's up) 02:22, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 9 February 2013

"Additionally, the city will host Super Bowl XLVII on February 3, 2013 at the Mercedes-Benz Superdome."

This is out-of-date.


89.240.84.163 (talk) 21:38, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

 Done TBrandley (what's up) 06:08, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Founding of New Orleans

New Orleans was founded in the spring of 1718. No specific date such as May 7th can be assigned because the city only consisted of construction huts for many months thereafter. Jean Baptiste LeMoyne, Sieur de Bienville received orders in February of 1718, naming him Governor (and/or Commandant) of Louisiana, and instructing him to build a new settlement 30 leagues above the mouth of the Mississippi. The orders came from the new "Company of the West", which had just received the monopoly to develop Louisiana colony in 1717. Within a few weeks, he sent a company of fifty or so men to begin clearing the land and laying out the streets. It was not until 1722, that the city actually became the capital of the colony.

Jglaiche (talk) 03:38, 19 July 2010 (UTC)Jglaiche

Fortier, Alcée, A History of Louisiana; in Five Volumes. 2nd Edition (ed. Jo Ann Carrigan, LSU History Dept.) Baton Rouge: Claitor’s Book Store, 1966. First Published, 1903. Volume One: Early Explorers and the Domination of the French.

Gayarré, Charles. History of Louisiana: Volume I. The French Domination. 4th Edition. New Orleans: F.F. Hansell & Bro., Ltd. 1903.

Giraud, Marcel. A History of French Louisiana, 5 Volumes. 

    Vol. II. Years of Transition, 1715-1717. Presses Universitaires de France, 1958. Tr. Brian Pearce. Baton Rouge: LSU Press, 1993.

Shepherd Jr., Samuel C. The Louisiana Purchase Bicentennial Series in Louisiana History. 19 Volumes. Lafayette, LA: Center for Louisiana Studies, Univ. of Louisiana at Lafayette, 2005. Herein cited as LPBS.

Vol. XIV. New Orleans and Urban Louisiana, Part A, Settlement to 1860.


If men were sent to begin clearing the land in February, it would have taken a few weeks to get to the mouth of the Mississippi River and begin work. This would roughly put their arrival approximately late March into April 1718. It would have taken a few weeks to clear the land and begin creating roads. Early May 1718 I believe may be an accurate estimate. Of course we will never know for sure due to poor record keeping back then. I was the one who originally made the "May, 7th 1718" estimate based on the information Jglaiche referenced above. The handwritten letters summarized above can be found in the Historic New Orleans Collection archives. I would say that my original declaration of the date is misleading and the wording should be revised to be more clear. I plan to visit the Historic New Orleans Collection again soon for further verification of the source material. ( Onilosmada  |  talk  00:35, 8 May 2013 (UTC))

Wrong choice of words

Somewhere in this article is a reference to 'daily intercourse'. I believe it was meant to be 'daily discourse', since its a discussion about languages, not sex. 114.143.86.110 (talk) 12:41, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Not done: intercourse isn't only sexual -- see wikt:intercourse. I think it's the better choice of word here, as it emphasises the aspect of direct communication between people. A wikt:discourse need not necessarily involve anything more than talking to oneself. --Stfg (talk) 12:51, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

new orleans sister cities

Why "Isola del Liri" is not in the list? New Orleans and Isola del Liri (FR) (ITA) made a sistership in 1997. in the italian page it's all right. sorry for my english bye — Preceding unsigned comment added by Numero10 (talk • contribs) 18:53, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi... it's not a sister city according to Sister Cities International.Onel5969 (talk) 19:28, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Structure

Hi. I'm going through all the US Cities (as per List of United States cities by population) in an effort to provide some uniformity in structure. Anyone have an issue with me restructuring this article as per Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline. I won't be changing any content, merely the order. Occasionally, I will also move a picture just to clean up spacing issues. I've already gone through the top 20 or so on the above list, if you'd like to see how they turned out. Thoughts? Onel5969 (talk) 19:39, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Crime

I stopped by this article to update the homicide stats and I noticed that NOLA does not have a separate article focusing on crime. which is fairly standard for most other large metropolitan areas. There is an article on NOLA PD, which is quite concise and satisfying from a law enforcement perspective. but it does leave out some of the sociological, demographic and psychosocial idiosyncrasies that would be beneficial to a reader or researcher interested in crime in the city. Thoughts? Supaflyrobby (talk) 22:04, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

In Progress Spoken Article

Noticed that both the user who requested the spoken article and the one working on it are no longer active. I think its worthy of a spoken version since geography often has a large number of specific pronunciations within the article. Galenanderson (talk) 07:39, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Implication of text

In the para discussing the attempt to regain population campaigns this text follows: "In 1950, the Census Bureau reported New Orleans' population as 68% white and 31.9% black." Is this really an example of a campaign being a success because the white pop is larger than the black? This is not a good example of support that the population campaigns were a success although the Census numbers could rightfully reflect those facts when discussing the race components of NO and what role those facts might have on NO.GinAndChronically (talk) 14:16, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

It was founded may 7 but someone forgot to put it in the biography section if someone can put it in there i will be most gratuitously happy.66.229.253.29 (talk) 21:52, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Edit Request

In the Government section, "The Criminal Sheriff, Marlin Gusman" should be linked to the Wikipedia page for the OPSO at http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Orleans_Parish_Sheriff's_Office_(Louisiana) instead of an external link to the OPSO homepage. 174.73.8.42 (talk) 05:26, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

 Done Onel5969 (talk) 12:23, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2014

Please CLARIFY, in the following, from Para. 3rd of 'History' section, where the abomination "blackspeaking" is used, whether this is meant to refer to the "French speaking" or "black" populations of the City. Vercingetorix12345 (talk) 16:50, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Partly done: I have removed the word "blackspeaking". Until recently, the article stated "French-speaking." However, the source cited does not specific language or race and simply states that the city's population doubled that year. -- ferret (talk) 22:35, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Red beans and rice

In New Orleans#Food wikify red beans and rice in the sentence that says "and the Monday favorite of red beans and rice 72.244.204.182 (talk) 03:23, 7 October 2014 (UTC) P.S. I think 6 years of semi-protecting is too long. Be bold and remove the protection. 72.244.204.182 (talk) 03:23, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Done Stickee (talk) 08:48, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 December 2014

It is not uncommon for a larger US city that has its population listed in the infobox to include its rank among US cities/metro areas as a link to the list of US cities/MSAs. I think this addition adds perspective w/r/t the relative size of the city/area without contributing too much clutter to the article. I also added a couple commas to the numbers.

I propose that the following section of the main infobox:

|population_total = 378715 |population_metro = 1,240,977 |population_density_km2 = 810 |population_density_sq_mi = 2096

be changed to:

|population_total = 378,715 (US: 51st) |population_metro = 1,240,977 (US: 45th) |population_density_km2 = 810 |population_density_sq_mi = 2,096


pc (talk) 06:05, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Done Biblioworm 20:11, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Orphaned references in New Orleans

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of New Orleans's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "NOAA":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 09:41, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Pronunciation edit request

The article current lists several variant pronunciations, each beginning "nju" (or "nyoo" for those unfamiliar with IPA). However, this pronunciation, while valid in Received Pronunciation, is not standard among New Orleans residents, or among Americans at large, who, as yod-droppers, pronounce the word "new" as "nu" (or "noo").--24.213.201.206 (talk) 19:28, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

I think you're correct. -- Infrogmation (talk) 17:16, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Timeline of New Orleans

What is missing from the city timeline? Please add relevant content. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 11:06, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2015

New Orleans is currently undergoing a time of regeneration and progressive change by removing landmarks and monuments that once gave this 300-year-old city its charm and allure. Soon it will cease to have the Old World mystery and charm that made it one of the must see destinations.

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The requested edit is unspecific to the extreme. It is also highly hyperbolic on a controversial issue. Moreover, it is misplaced on this article: the relevant articles on all 4 specific monuments at issue more than adequately document the current removal/renaming controversy. Check them out and edit at will if you think they can be improved with your evident neutral point of view, backed up by reliable secondary sources better than those already cited. Prepare to have edits reverted if not.-- Paulscrawl (talk) 05:30, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2016 Population and Demographic Changes

http://www.npr.org/2015/08/19/429353601/post-katrina-new-orleans-smaller-but-population-growth-rates-back-on-track

The city of New Orleans is a lot smaller today than it was before Katrina, and African-Americans have borne the brunt of that loss. Nearly 200,000 black people fled to escape the flooding, and only half that number have returned in the years since. Overall, the city has lost nearly one-third of its black population since 2000. For five years before the storm, the black population was neither rising nor falling. It was holding steady. Then the storm hit, and the population plunged. After a few years of steady recovery, the rate at which New Orleans’ black population is growing at the same rate that it was before the storm — it’s holding steady, and it remains around 60 percent of the total population.

A devastating number of white and black residents have left the New Orleans region, seemingly for good. These shifts are sure to have far-reaching effects on the local economy, culture and traditions. A full third of the region’s total population loss has been made up by the growing numbers of Hispanic residents. These changes, combined with slowing rates of growth among other groups, make it clear the New Orleans region will not return to its pre-Katrina demographics anytime soon.

[3]


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References

  1. ^ http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/01/new_orleans_homicides_jump_by.html
  2. ^ http://www.seguridadjusticiaypaz.org.mx/sala-de-prensa/541-san-pedro-sula-la-ciudad-mas-violenta-del-mundo-juarez-la-segunda
  3. ^ http://www.npr.org/2015/08/19/429353601/post-katrina-new-orleans-smaller-but-population-growth-rates-back-on-track

Revert

There is nothing necessarily "appropriate" about the serial comma. Punctuation must (obviously) only be used when it assists understanding, otherwise it will spread like wildfire and make language unreadable – this has occurred in WP articles before. Therefore the rule has to be to avoid commas (and other marks) where possible. The serial commas I deleted were not necessary to comprehend the sentence. Also, there is nothing "incorrect" about having more than one semi-colon in a sentence; there's a famous example in Shakespeare. Just because some editors have never seen it done before, well.. *throws up hands in despair* Harfarhs (talk) 12:35, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Crescent City

Please see move proposal. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:52, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Rosh Ha'Ayin as a sister city

New Orleans has Rosh Ha'Ayin of Israel as a sister city. It should be added to the list.

New Orleans' namesake

New Orleans was NOT named for the French city of Orleans. It was named for Philippe II, Duc d'Orleans under King Louis XIV. Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Philippe_II,_Duke_of_Orl%C3%A9ansCite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).

Peace of Paris of 1763 or 1783?

Kingdom of Spain refers to Peace of Paris (1783) ; I think it rather should be Peace of Paris (1763). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Circenses (talk • contribs) 21:42, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Elevation - Wikipedia as an archive

Sometimes I like to cross-check facts by looking through old revisions. I went back to 2005 and found this:

"New Orleans is a unique city because some areas of the city range from 1 to 20 feet (0.3 to 6 m) below sea level, and rain-water must be pumped out as fast as it falls to prevent flooding. In addition to the urban areas of the city, New Orleans includes undeveloped wetland, especially in the east. The city is very flood-prone. If it rains more than 1 inch (25 mm) there is usually some form of area flooding, which due to the climate can be a fairly regular occurence. Because of this, nearly all of New Orleans' cemeteries use above ground crypts rather than underground burial."

Now the article states that the range is from -2 meters (six feet) to positive 20 feet (6 meters). B137 (talk) 01:44, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 March 2017

Hi! I'd like to use my own pictures I took that I think are an improvement over the current ones being used.

For the picture in the city scape category I'd like to use this.

French Quarter balcony view looking to CBD

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:French_Quarter_view_looking_toward_CBD.jpg

For the picture for Demographics Category I'd like to use this, a much better pic of the French Quarter

Cabildo Alley classic French Quarter scene

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cabildo_Alley.jpg

In the Geography category specifically Historic and residential architecture part, I'd like to add this image where there currently isn't one.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Uptown_New_Orleans_home.jpg

In the tourism category I'd like to use a picture I've already uploaded to the NOMA wiki page

New Orleans Museum of Art with Roy Lichtenstein's "Five Brushstrokes"

I took all these photos, feel free to email me at jjslonaker@gmail.com with any questions, my name is Jarret and I'd like NOLA's wiki page to have better quality photos Jslon (talk) 07:10, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2017

References nos. 64 and 65 are cited to support the statement that the average sea level in the city of New Orleans is between 1 and 2 feet below sea level. Ref 64 is a peer-review report; ref 65 is a newspaper article the cites ref 64. Careful reading of both references reveals that neither supports the statement re average sea level. The statement should be deleted. 2602:306:BDCA:1B30:205B:5971:FBDB:3F62 (talk) 12:20, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2017

s/Orelans/Orleans/ 97.124.72.247 (talk) 06:46, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

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Big Easy

The articldst1]] (talk) 01:08, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

What's the comment or the question? ICE77 (talk) 18:39, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Questions and comments

This is a good article. I read it and I found it pleasant as well as well organized. I found a variety of inconsistencies or errors/problems that I document below. I also put a good amount of energy into reorganizing the layout that I found mediocre, first because some images were of different sizes and second because they were in the wrong location (not next to the text where they pertain). I also noticed that this article is corrected regularly and some of the things I planned to correct where already corrected. Here are a few things I want to ask or say.

1. "Nearly all of the surviving 18th-century architecture of the Vieux Carré (French Quarter) dates from the Spanish period, notably excepting the Old Ursuline Convent."

If that's the case then why is the area called French Quarter instead of Spanish Quarter?

2. "In this period, the state legislature passed more restrictions on manumissions of slaves and virtually ended it in 1852."

The above has a note at the bottom of the article by Lawrence J. Kotlikoff and Anton J. Rupert. However, the article does not add that "in 1857 the legislature simply outlawed the manumission of slaves". This information is important and it should be added to the article because it implies that slavery was over temporarily between 1852 and 1857.

3. I visited the city in December and I learned from local people that the 9th Ward was the area most affected by hurricane Katrina. This would be useful information for the same section. I'm quite sure there is some source of information in merit.

4. Part of the "Post-disaster recovery" section is about sports. I think anything related to sport should be in the "Sports" section.

5. "For structures in hazardous areas and residents who do not relocate, the committee recommended major floodproofing measures—such as elevating the first floor of buildings to at least the 100-year flood level."

What does "100-year flood level" mean?

6. Listing "0.0% Pacific Islander" sounds pretty ridiculous. Omit instead.

7. "In 1994 New Orleans was named 'Murder Capitol of America'".

Should it be capital like it's spelled below in the same section?

ICE77 (talk) 22:07, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Dubious founding date is discrediting Wikipedia; please stop putting it back in without source

I *again* removed the dubious/unsourced if not simply false claim that New Orleans was supposedly founded on 7 May 1718, again including a source as to why it was dubious. I don't know why the misinformation was added back without comment or source. This being New Orleans tricentennial year, there has been local attention on the founding and I have seen multiple local writers blaming Wikipedia for spreading this rumor or simply mocking Wikipedia for the error. Please, do not put that claim back without providing supporting information.

Here's an article by locally well regarded historian and author Richard Campanella, who notes that no date for any official founding, but that Bienville et al seem to have landed and began clearing space for the planned city in late April or early March of the 1718. Tricentennial Timeline PDF -- Infrogmation (talk) 20:05, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2018

Please change "ceveloped" to "developed" Rrsrrs74 (talk) 14:39, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

 Done Thank you for pointing that out! DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 15:55, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

New Orleans City Council page

The New Orleans City Council page is terribly outdated. I am not savvy enough to edit the table that charts out who was elected to the council and when. If anyone has the time and interest, that page could use an update with the latest elected officials.

Eclectek C T 14:19, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

spelling

capital, not capitol.

Noticed a few typos also, such as not using apostrophe in some possessives.

Would have edited it myself, but it seems the page is locked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.239.214.64 (talk) 21:15, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

replace photo montage with the photo montage template

https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Template:Photomontage — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.98.63.242 (talk) 18:09, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

"have arose"

"concerns about gentrification and displacement have arose"

Shouldn't it be "have arisen"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a01:388:2b5:150::1:57 (talk) 19:06, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

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Suggested edit to the photo-montage at the top of this article

The picture of the New Orleans tram in the photo-montage at the top of this article is back to front. The page owner might want to flip the shot to enhance the reading experience.Haynesta (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:19, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Change terminology - "illegal immigrants" to "undocumented immigrants"

Dear Wikipedia,

I am writing to request a change to the terminology "illegal immigrants" utilized in the demographic section of the wiki entry on New Orleans. Please substitute with "undocumented immigrants" as this has been adopted as the more accurate term. Journalistic sources such as AP adopted this change in 2013, and I hope wikipedia will also drop the use of a questionable term. Thank you.23:00, 17 December 2016 (UTC)Wikimohan102 (talk)

Dear Wikimohan102,


no that's dumb — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.193.26.242 (talk) 20:43, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Pronunciation

The article lists /ˈɔːrlənz/ as the local pronunciation. Is there some reason it's not the first one listed? Whatever the case, I don't see why /ɔːrˈliːnz/ should be listed first. pʰeːnuːmuː →‎ pʰiːnyːmyː → ‎ɸinimi → ‎fiɲimi 05:17, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

French Colonial History - edit request

"The economic problems under Vaudreuil would not allow the French to outcompete the British and resulted in many of Louisiana’s Native American revolts. In 1747 and 1748 the Chickasaw would raid along the east bank of the Mississippi all the way south to Baton Rouge. These actions supported by the British colonials would force residents of French Louisiana to take refuge in New Orleans." is repeated verbatim in the History section; please delete one of the copies. 160.93.6.8 (talk) 17:49, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Repeated Paragraph

This paragraph is repeated:

The economic problems under Vaudreuil would not allow the French to outcompete the British and resulted in many of Louisiana’s Native American revolts. In 1747 and 1748 the Chickasaw would raid along the east bank of the Mississippi all the way south to Baton Rouge. These actions supported by the British colonials would force residents of French Louisiana to take refuge in New Orleans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.6.60.227 (talk) 03:31, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Presidential election results

Most major cities (or at least independent cities) have presidential election results on their page. Results for New Orelans should be added. Results are available here:[3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.104.110 (talk) 16:05, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Crime section incorrect and outdated

New Orleans is not the murder capitol and has not been for several years. The murder rate has fallen to a 47 year low and other violent crime has also dropped considerably, including gun violence. I am not allowed to update the page apparently so please correct this egregious error.[4], [5], [6] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reality156 (talk • contribs) 23:25, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Strong one-sided wording

Under the section: Spanish Louisiana The phrase "New Orleans was an important port for smuggling aid to the rebels" is strongly one-sided and biased. It was NOT illegal for the Spanish to transport supplies to the American colonies and therefor it was not "smuggling!" The Spanish had full usage rights and control of the Gulf of Mexico and New Orleans (Nueva Orleans, la Luisiana) A more enlightened rephrasing might better read: "New Orleans was an important port for transporting much needed aid to the American colonies" or if preferred: "New Orleans was an important port for transporting much needed aid to the American colonial rebels" Kosmos1745 (talk) 20:56, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

They were smuggled in the period before 1779 when Spain formally declared war with the Treaty of Aranjuez (1779). Before that, it would've been illegal for them to aid the rebellion as the colonies were still territory of England. MartinezMD (talk) 22:10, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Add detail to Changes In Population

In the "Changes In Population" subsection, I would like to provide more detail based on data I gathered for a project:

Between 1960 and 2005, New Orleans lost over 170,000 residents and after Katrina, 42% of longtime black residents were able to return in comparison to 78% of the longtime white residents, playing into the mass gentrification that New Orleans has experienced steadily since the 1980s.

This information is based on the articles:

- https://features.weather.com/exodus/chapter/a-neighborhood-requiem/ - https://www.nola.com/entertainment_life/arts/article_582b1a5a-7de8-5b6d-ad82-dd40ad961761.html Arcncam (talk) 02:23, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. First link is dead, but statistics and a direct tie to Katrina are not present in the second link. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 14:36, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 December 2020

On the external links section of the New Orleans page, please change the external link "Official Tourism Website" from https://webarchive.org/web/20150628214040/http://www.neworleansonline.com/ to https://www.neworleans.com/. Harrisonghrist (talk) 16:26, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Done. MartinezMD (talk) 16:42, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 May 2021

Please remove the category "Maps of New Orleans". That category has no meaning, because it only includes this article, which is not a map. 2601:640:4000:3170:4C5:8BB:168D:5768 (talk) 17:20, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Categories are meant for that only. Run n Fly (talk) 17:57, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Wildly incorrect yearly mean maximum and mean minimum temperatures

The mean maximum and mean minimum yearly temperatures given in the chart don't make any sense at all—they're higher (or lower) than any of the monthly mean max/min temperatures. They aren't the mean of the Record high and record low temperatures, either. I don't know where the values given (97.3°, and 24.6°) came from. I've corrected the errors, using the mean value of all twelve monthly mean max (or min) temperatures provided. ☽Dziban303 »» Talk☾ 22:29, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

@Dziban303: I saw that you made an edit with regards to that. It is indeed a confusing thing with the average record highs and average record lows so I will try to clarify to the best of my extent. For the yearly values, the reason that it does not match any of the monthly average record high or monthly average record low is that the yearly value is based on the yearly highest temperature, that is, on average, the highest temperature to be observed in a year (copied and pasted from the documentation on Template:Weather box). This is why when you go to monthly summarized data from the NWS source, choose 1981-2010 normals (I will shortly update it to 1991-2020), the yearly avg record high is based on highest temperature recorded in that year (some years, you get August recording the highest temps, other years; it could be June or July and this could be the reason it doesn't match it. My best advice is to go with the NWS source since they already do the calculation for the yearly value if in doubt. Ssbbplayer (talk) 02:15, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

So is this template under your care? It definitely needs work. These values are not intuitive. At the very least it requires a footnote on the Yearly column explaining the rationality. ☽Dziban303 »» Talk☾ 13:39, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

In that case, what I would recommend is leaving a comment on the talk page on Template talk:Weather box. It is the best area to discuss this. I do not know how to even code or edit the template at all and I am not resposible for creating that template. With regards to most of the major US cities weatherboxes, most of these average record highs and average record lows were added by User:CaradhrasAiguo (currently blocked). Ssbbplayer (talk) 00:04, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Hurricane Ida

Nothing about impacts from Hurricane Ida? Lazarus1255 (talk) 23:41, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 30 September 2022

Under 'History' and 'Hurricane Ida', change "made landfall in New Orleans" to "made landfall West of New Orleans".

Hurricane Ida did not make landfall in New Orleans. Landfall occurred at Port Fourchon in Lafourche Parish. 2600:100D:B16A:1AA4:9CBB:B6E7:381D:79E3 (talk) 13:39, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

 Done Icabobin (talk) 16:51, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
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