Talk:New Mexico State Penitentiary riot

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Deprivation and Discontent?

If deprivation and discontent were alone responsible for the New Mexico State Penitentiary Riot, then we should expect the same results from monks in a monastery who equally deprived and discontented. Both the riot and the savagery was caused by one factor... the nature of the beasts locked inside the prison. The same thing occurs in any prison where the inmates can gain an upper hand. It is wrong to seek blame in the administration of the prison and to say that if officials had been accomodating enough that the riot would have never occured.

Officials should not have waited 36 hours before entering to regain control. That they did is due to the same restraints placed on them by the very system that blames them for the riot in the first place.

98.193.216.6 (talk) 00:23, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The same thing occurs in any prison where inmates are treated worse than animals which is, has been, and apparently always WILL BE the case in the United States prison systems. To compare life in a prison with life in a monastery shows an appalling ignorance (or willful stupidity) on the part of the author above. The administration of the prison runs the prison. They know the relationship between inmates and guards, they know exactly what their guards are doing in the prison to prisoners, they know when the prisoners are discontent, they know when a pot is going to boil over. It is they who should TAKE THE BLAME for a riot like this one or any other because it is THEY who manage the prison and THEY who saw this coming. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.23.105.146 (talk) 05:47, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The men in question were wards of the state. The state is responsible for everything that happens to them. There is no legal basis for confining people against their will and then claiming that anything that happens to them is "their fault". Not even the in United States. Laodah 05:30, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

They were not "wards of the state" they were convicted felons who had been sentenced to prison for their criminal acts. The only error made by the prison authorities was failing to aggressively put down the riot and kill any prisoners who resisted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.127.134.227 (talk) 12:23, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"The only error"? Afraid not. The errors the prison officials made were numerous and over a long period of time. You obviously haven't read the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.138.89.132 (talk) 09:04, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Punish But Do Not Destroy

The goal,mission and or purpose of the Criminal Justice System ought to be or should be one of Punishing and not Destroying. If a Citizen does not obey or followed a Law which should be followed if one is to live freely in a Civilized Society than he should be punish. According to Author Adolph Saenz in his Book Politics Of A Prison Riot, (1986) in 1980, Conditions at New Mexico State Prison where so Deplorable that they were Inhumane. Accoridng to the Author when the Inmates made their first written demands (to release their hostages), "the demands were not Unreasonable". According to the Author one inmate was heard yelling, "treat us like men", in fact what he was saying, was "treat us like human beings".

          Myfifteen (talk) 21:58, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So how do you suggest how to improve the article? WhisperToMe (talk) 20:46, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A warning, please

Normally I am not too troubled by descriptions of violence, but some of the descriptions in this article are utterly horrific. I had nightmares the night after reading this, can you please war people that this article contains very disturbing depictions of real events? --218.215.22.77 (talk) 18:33, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that this riot was utterly horrific. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aar095 (talk • contribs) 07:46, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Citation issue?

When you click on the 7th citation at the bottom, it leads you to some sort of pornographic website. It is only the link for that page for whatever reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.17.102.152 (talk) 06:53, 28 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done. El_C 07:03, 28 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References to "Rodriguez" in Negotiations Begin

References are made to a "Rodriguez" without explaining title, first name, or other identifiable characteristics anywhere in the article. I assume this is Felix Rodriguez but this should be clarified. 2600:1700:5610:82F0:B1C7:FC13:3FF6:321C (talk) 19:10, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]