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This article neutron capture therapy of cancer has only one paragraph that isn't about BORON-based neutron capture therapy (NCT) (this paragraph is about gadolinium-based NCT). This article is far more detailed about the boron-based NCT than is the dedicated boron neutron capture therapy article. So we have an overlap, but in the wrong direction, as the general article is a far better and longer review of BNCT than is boron neutron capture therapy.

Possibilities are:

  1. Delete the boron neutron capture therapy article and redirect this to this article. This isn't really a merge as the boron NCT article is short, and doesn't really have any info that neutron capture therapy of cancer doesn't, and only has one illustration lacking here, which could easily be moved here (I think the one here is better, but the other could be used farther down).

    Note that the "of cancer" part of this article is superfluous since NCT (whether with B or Gd as target) is only used for cancer. But I don't think that's enough reason to rename this article by shortening it, unless it is to be renamed anyway.

  1. Another possiblity is that the article neutron capture therapy of cancer could be renamed boron neutron capture therapy (deleting that one) and spinning off gadolinium neutron capture therapy as a stub. I don't like that option, as it would be a pretty small stub, and there's a better place for it with this other material, which incorporates most of the same external techniques.

If I don't hear from other editors in a week I'll just be WP:BOLD and do option #1. SBHarris 18:11, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I am interested in the capture of neutrons by b10 but not really related to medical cancer therapy. Is it possible to have two different topics on separate pages? 2600:8804:760C:9700:2C0E:BC1B:F940:ECD (talk) 21:31, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I have moved all non-duplicated material from the boron neutron capture therapy article to here

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And have proposed that the other be deleted (PROD) and redirected to this article. That fixes the problem. SBHarris 22:46, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Physics Needs Supporting Evidence

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According to the "Isotopes of boron" wiki article (and other sources), both Boron-10 and Boron-11 are stable isotopes. Boron-12, however, is known to decay to (stable) Carbon-12 through beta emission and sometimes (<2%) to 3 alpha particles and a beta particle.

The Boron-11 decay to (stable) Lithium-7 and an alpha particle can only be explained if Boron-11 was in an excited state. This article should reference sources that document this decay mode. --OhioFred (talk) 16:44, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

B-11 formed by thermal neutron capture on B-10 is an excited state due to neutron pairing. This reaction has been known since 1935, well before the similar reaction in U-235 (1938). In retrospect it's surprising the idea of fission in U was resisted when the B-10 reaction was known. Anyway the physics is well documented in many secondary reviews cited here such as [1] and internal ref 26, and it seems about as pointless to track down the original report as it would be for U325. It is of historical value only. It is quite well enough documented for WP. SBHarris 17:13, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I keep seeing B-11 being mentioned in this reaction. My understanding is that when B10 captures a neutron, the nucleus splits into Li-7 and an Alpha particle. As a result, a gamma ray with the energy of 478 Kev is released. B11 has a very low cross capture ability and will not normally capture a neutron. This is my understanding of basic neutron capture by Boron. However, this is where I find the page confusing. I personally am not interested in what they do medically. Do they use B11 in that procedure? 2600:8804:760C:9700:2C0E:BC1B:F940:ECD (talk) 21:45, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed all instances of "fission" to "decay"...but I am no nuclear physicist... am I wrong? Is B-10 + n actually fission???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.83.161.177 (talk) 16:56, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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