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History?

I'm surprised to see it's used in Greece also, does anyone know about its history? Where did it come from? I thought it's about Tengriism but I'm not sure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.110.253.246 (talk) 13:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Probably one more piece of Mediterranean history mongoloids stole and anachronistically applied to their "Tengrin" origins after Ataturk decided that "Turkish" national identity wasn't about traitorous Islamified Anatolians but about some sort of obscure heritage by Altaic pillagers.--5.55.35.81 (talk) 04:02, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nazar Boncugu (The Evil Eye Bead)

Throughout the ancient history of mankind the “eye” symbolizes a protection against the evil in many cultures and religions. It is mostly common within the religions which generated in Asia, or around the Middle East. People who believe in “nazar” use different tactics to avoid the negative energy which they assume will affect any aspect of their lives. These people also have religious or cultural ways of getting rid of the “evil eye” once they believe they have it. The healing and protecting power of the eye goes back to the history of (Turkish:“nazar boncugu” goes back to an Egyptian God known as Osiris. In Ancient Egypt Osiris symbol is an eye that has been believed to have a protective and healing power.

The colors of the evil eye bead are blue, light blue white and black; it has also been said that the colors of the eye has a calming effect on the onlookers due to the high frequency of the color blue.

Different religions in Asia believe that the nazar can come upon any asset, such as nice hair, eyes, house, car, etc. According to the concept of the evil eye, negative energy (nazar) comes from envious people. “Masallah” is a phrase which means is usually written on the evil eye. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seraalper (talk • contribs) 11:31, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changed wording in description

Small change. The original text read "...from inside out: dark blue (or black), white, light blue (or yellow), and dark blue – and is sometimes referred to as blue eye" The color order was incorrect so I changed it to "...from inside out: dark blue (or black), light blue, white, and dark blue (occasionally a yellow/gold edge circle)– and is sometimes referred to as blue eye" You can also see in the picture that is on this page that the order I changed it to is the correct one. KilGrey (talk) 02:18, 12 February 2010 (UTC)KilGrey[reply]

Nazar Heading

I think this entry is entirely about the Turkish nazar boncugu and should be re-headed as such. The word nazar is used in some surrounding countries, but all references and images on this page are of Turkish origin. Bhellman75 (talk) 15:56, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You are right. And then "nazar boncuğu" (nazar boncugu) or "nazar boncuk" may merge into a single article together with "eye bead", under one of these names. "Nazar" as a concept (its title could be changed to "nazar (evil eye)", as at present "nazar" is used as a disam page) should redirect to evil eye and there would be no need for a title like "nazar (amulet)". --176.239.48.190 (talk) 17:54, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal

October 2013 request to merge Eye bead to Nazar (amulet)|article; Discussion here:

Oppose: I aggree the texts are similar. But two concepts are not the same. Nazar is evil eye, ie, a belief that a person with bad intentions can cause harm by a glance. Eye bead is an object, among other uses (like ornament) it can be used for prevention against evil eye. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:43, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Note that the merger proposal refers to the article describing the amulet or ornament used as protection from the evil eye. --Joe Sewell (talk) 16:53, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Agree: The concept of the evil eye is covered in its own article. The eye bead is already a subsection of the Nazar (amulet) article. The power of the amulet is the general blue-eye shape, as is demonstrated by it being painted on aircraft, which is not glasswork.

I think the above opposing vote can be cleared up by the intro to this article:

A nazar (Turkish: nazar boncuğu Old Turkic: gökçe munçuk) is an eye-shaped amulet believed to protect against the evil eye ("evil eye", from nazar and "amulet" from boncuğu).

So, in Turkish, "nazar" by itself can mean evil eye, but somewhere along the way some group of people shortened "nazar boncuğu" to "nazar," at least in English. I suggest interested editors aim towards (because doing this well would be quite a bit of work):

Merging the stubs.
Finding out where and in what languages the amulet is called "nazar" alone.
Finding out what the amulet shape, the glass amulet, and the amulet bead are called in each region where they are traditional, in order to find out (in each region) which of these things are labelled the same and which are considered to be different and to what degree, so that the relationships can be more clearly outlined and their history traced.

Sorry all I can do is make suggestions. Thanks, --Geekdiva (talk) 19:33, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Minor edit fix spelling "b" vs "n"?

In the introduction In Urdu, it is also called bazaar (نظر). I believe the English shows bazaar and the Urdu shows nazar? HalFonts (talk) 22:27, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Add 🧿 Meoji?

Should the Nazar Emjoji be added, like the Fleuron found at https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Fleuron_(typography)? The Jemjoi is a direct representation of the Nazar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.128.180.189 (talk) 01:36, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

guidline about nazar article

can you please remove the refference of islam from amulet thing. Islam has no concept of hanging such non-living things so as to protect you from evil eyes. if some muslims are doing this that doesn't mean islam has such teachings. Those muslims are at fualt cause these amulets are useless. We reas certain verses from Quraan to avoid someones bad eye either from a human or paranormal creatures. Islam suggests you to recite Quraan in your houses on daily basis to revert an evil eye besides of hanging clueless glass things and doing nothing on your own. 124.29.239.202 (talk) 22:30, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Islam is not mentioned in the article. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 22:40, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is a major sin and wrong info!

In Islam the evil eye is considered as shirk which is a MAJOR sin and is considered horrible in Islam 2A02:C7C:52E1:3200:35C5:91F3:B842:36B4 (talk) 17:22, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Articles confuses the amulet against the evil eye with the evil eye itself

The articles is about the amulet against the evil eye; yet, many parts of it are about the evil eye itself, and I'm therefore taking them from here and moving them there, such as:

"The evil eye causes its victim to become unwell the next day, unless a protective phrase such as "with the will of God" (mashallah in Arabic) or “ May Allah Bless You” (Alhumma Barik) is recited.^[1] Among adherents of Hinduism in South Asia, when a mother observes that her child is being excessively complimented, it is common for them to attempt to neutralize the effects of the evil eye (nazar utarna) by "holding red chilies in one hand and circling the child's head a few times, then burning the chilies."^[2]^[3]" Dan Palraz (talk) 20:58, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Giger, Joyce Newman (29 January 2016). Transcultural Nursing. Elsevier Health Sciences. p. 351. ISBN 9780323400046.
^ Shankar, Vijay N. (20 August 2014). Shadow Boxing with the Gods. Leadstart Publishing. p. 43. ISBN 9789381836804.
^ Valsiner, Jaan (2 February 2000). Culture and Human Development. SAGE Publications. p. 182. ISBN 9780761956846. In Rajastan (India) the treatment of the 'evil eye' includes seven red chilis and some salt circled over the head of the sick child before these are thrown into the hearth.

[Giger2016-1] Giger, Joyce Newman (29 January 2016). Transcultural Nursing. Elsevier Health Sciences. p. 351. ISBN 9780323400046.

[Shankar2014-2] Shankar, Vijay N. (20 August 2014). Shadow Boxing with the Gods. Leadstart Publishing. p. 43. ISBN 9789381836804.

[Valsiner2000-3] Valsiner, Jaan (2 February 2000). Culture and Human Development. SAGE Publications. p. 182. ISBN 9780761956846. In Rajastan (India) the treatment of the 'evil eye' includes seven red chilis and some salt circled over the head of the sick child before these are thrown into the hearth.

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