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Cleanup

There's a fair amount of stuff near the bottom of the page that is not really relevant or notable to this article, and should be cleaned up (or, at the very least, worded in much less politically-charged phrasing like "final conversion to Republican conservatism"). I don't have time to do that right now, but hope to soon, unless someone beats me to it. --Jhortman 18:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I just removed some of the verbiage and added {{Fact}} tags to a few places that need citations. Also, the article states he ran unpposed from 1998-2004 (I expanded to list each congressional election year) but later in the article it said he faced his first Democratic opponent since 1998. Needs clarification and to be made consistent throughout article.--Roswell native 21:12, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Uncited Allegations

I deleted this sentence from the introductory section of Deal's bio. "In September 2010 it was revealed that Deal failed to disclose $5 million of personal debt." There was no source for this, and there is still a lot of controversy about this. Since he is running for governor, I wanted to be extra careful about this sort of unsourced allegation. If anyone can come up with a source that says this, I would encourage them to put it back into the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.232.36.43 (talk) 21:52, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Troy Davis

Might want to ad a Troy Davis section as Davis's execution under Deal's watch will be a major issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.243.31.150 (talk) 10:18, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Worst Governor in America?

Does anyone really believe that the CREW reference to Deal being "one of the worst governors in America" is appropriate in this article? It appears that the rating is based on a subjective analysis limited to 16 Republican governors and 2 Democratic governors and in which all the governors analyzed received the rating. No criteria were specified. Any thoughts from the community?CFredkin (talk) 21:51, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What's your source for your allegation that only 18 Governors were analyzed, or that no criteria were specified? "In compiling the latest edition of its Worst Governors in America report, CREW reviewed the job performance of the governors of all 50 states before identifying the 18 worst. While laws related to ethics, open records, financial disclosure, and campaign finance vary greatly from state to state, CREW found these governors’ actions troubling by any standard." Excellius (talk) 22:37, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Their report only mentions the 18 governors that they labeled as "worst". None of the other governors that they supposedly analyzed are referenced. Even NPR and the Chairman of the NY Dem Party of questioned the credibility of the report.^[1]CFredkin (talk) 22:46, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Although the ranking in obviously somewhat subjective, the better way to include some of this material would be to use the original sources (cited in the CREW paper) and weigh each item against BLP and UNDUE concerns. --Tgeairn (talk) 21:01, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Without a lot more, it's simply an empty political POV statement that tells the reader nothing. Even with more, it's setting the article up to be little more than a battlefield of opposing qualitative opinions.John2510 (talk) 02:40, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

it's been reported in Atlanta newspapers, AJC and Creative Loafing, both of which are reliable sources. see below for two from the latter which has links to the former. whether we mention CREW's ranking and report specifically -- which i think we should since it's an ethics watchdog group -- the ethical issues raised therein should be included in this wiki article. -76.17.125.137 (talk) 12:39, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The best argument for inclusion is to try to identify enough Democratic governors with verifiable poor records to bring the report to a normal 3:2 ratio. Since this measure is still somewhat objective (though fairly clear in practice), I will agree with the exclusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lens7777 (talk • contribs) 00:50, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ url=http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2013/07/18/203367142/worst-governors-list-has-suspicious-deep-red-tinge

addt'l sources

after a quick look through the article's current references, i don't see any from Creative Loafing (Atlanta) weekly newspaper. So here's two that may be useful: http://clatl.com/freshloaf/archives/2013/07/18/ethics-watchdog-ranks-deal-as-nations-worst-governor and http://clatl.com/freshloaf/archives/2013/09/26/ethics-watchdogs-zero-in-on-deal-amid-alleged-cover-up-of-investigation (each has embedded links to previous reports from CL as well as articles from AJC & other sources, some of which may already be used in this wiki article.) -76.17.125.137 (talk) 12:19, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ethics, anyone?

Nathan Deal's Wikipedia page seems to have been subjected to the same scouring as it is alleged his ethical investigation documents were. There is an increasing number of whistle-blowers making seemingly credible claims of not only unethical activities on Deal's part, but also of having corrupted and derailed the subsequent investigation.

http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/political-insider/2013/oct/09/nathan-deal-personal-agendas-complicate-ethics-age/

"Nathan Deal ethics" gets more than 200K hits on Google, yet the topic gets only two redundant, confused and dismissive paragraphs on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.125.98.226 (talk) 13:35, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Disputed content

This and this content were removed because allegations regarding Chris Riley are not relevant to Deal's BLP.

This content was removed because it appears to be redundant with the previous statement.CFredkin (talk) 06:11, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If Deal's campaign is relevent to Deal's bio, then allegations about his campaign are equally so. Vanamonde93 (talk) 11:08, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If this article was about the campaign, then I would agree with you. But it's Deal's WP:BLP, so the actions of his campaign manager are not relevant. In addition, some of the content you restored is redundant with the statement which precedes it in the article (which is why I removed it, as noted above).CFredkin (talk) 15:22, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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