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There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Nagano, Nagano which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 23:00, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 29 July 2018

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved  — Amakuru (talk) 20:14, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]



Nagano (disambiguation)Nagano – No primary topic, and the pages that currently link to the base title are divided between (a) those that clearly should go to Nagano Prefecture, (b) those that probably should go there but currently don't and might look to the naked eye like they don't have a problem, and (this appears to be a minority) (c) those that actually are meant to go to Nagano, Nagano, so the large number of disambig links that would be created by the move in the short term would actually solve more problems than it would create. Opening separate discussions here and at Nagano, Nagano (→ Nagano (city)) since there were varying levels of agreement in the previous discussion (here) as to the two alternate proposals, which were only loosely related to each other anyway. Hijiri 88 (やや) 13:35, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging participants in previous discussion: User:Curly Turkey, User:Cuchullain, User:Certes, User:Dekimasu, User:Wbm1058, User:Imaginatorium, User:Natg, User:AjaxSmack, User:Margin1522, User:Feminist, User:83.228.159.212, User:MChew, User:CookieMonster755, User:Xezbeth, User:Crouch, Swale. Hijiri 88 (やや) 13:42, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Page views are similar and I don't see other indicators of a primary topic either. Making Nagano a dab page will alert readers to the ambiguity and help editors to find and fix bad links. Certes (talk) 13:51, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Dekimasu: I did a brief check, and there are several, like Iwate, that should probably be changed the opposite way (Iwate Town is just an arbitrary name that was selected because the group of municipalities that merged to create the town were all located fairly close to Morioka, where the actual rock-hand that gives the prefecture its name is located) and some others, like Niigata, that probably do not need any change to their status quo. For that reason I think these ones, more even than the "Fu, Fu" problem, probably need to be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. Hijiri 88 (やや) 22:53, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that these that need to be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. For some the prefecture should be the primary topic (if not the article location). But I think primary redirects to cities should be altered to move the disambiguation page to the base title at the very least, for cities the size of Kagoshima on down. Wakayama is another. I'm not even sure about Okayama. At least Kumamoto is a designated city, but.... (and we haven't gotten back around to Gifu.) Dekimasuよ! 23:08, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. Gifu is an outlier, and may be without good justification. I believe that part of the Japanese Alps are in the prefecture, but the city appears to be on a plain perhaps surrounded by mountains, but not actually in the mountains. wbm1058 (talk) 13:21, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
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We've fixed most of the 489 incoming links to this page, mainly by diverting them to the city or the prefecture. There are still about a dozen where the meaning is not obvious. Please can editors familiar with the topics help out? Thanks, Certes (talk) 17:00, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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