Talk:Nadodrze

A fact from Nadodrze appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 18 April 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Nadodrze in Poland was used by Steven Spielberg as a filming location for a spy drama set in Berlin?

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 01:27, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Renovated house in Nadodrze

... that Nadodrze is compared to Kreuzberg and Trastevere? Source: wroclaw.pl and dw.com
- ALT1:... that Nadodrze is a symbol of revitalization in Wrocław, Poland? Source: Revitalisation versus gentrification in contemporary urban studies. The case of Nadodrze.
- ALT2:... that Nadodrze was used by Steven Spielberg to film Berlin streets, and is compared to its district of Kreuzberg? Source: wroclaw.pl and Film Comission Poland
- ALT3:... that artistic Nadodrze district in Wroclaw, Poland, is compared to counterparts in Rome and Berlin?
- ALT4:... that Nadodrze was used by Steven Spielberg as a filming location for a spy drama about Berlin? Source: wroclaw.pl and Film Comission Poland TVN ONET
- ALT5:... that the district of Nadodrze, in Wrocław, Poland, was revitalized after years of decay? Source: Revitalisation versus gentrification in contemporary urban studies. The case of Nadodrze.
- ALT6:... that the district of Nadodrze, in Wrocław, Poland, started to decay in 1940s and was revitalized in 2000s? Source: Revitalisation versus gentrification in contemporary urban studies. The case of Nadodrze.

Created by Andrew J.Kurbiko (talk). Self-nominated at 17:16, 26 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]

@Andrew J.Kurbiko: Will be claiming this for review with the full one to follow by tomorrow, but right now I'm not sure if ALT0 will work out since it may be too niche for non-European readers. Perhaps some variant of ALT1 will work out better, though it may need to be emphasized that the subject is a housing estate. Finally, perhaps there could be more hook suggestions that could be proposed here? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 11:18, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Added 2 and 3 with more context --Andrei (talk) 11:05, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 sounds promising but could be rewritten ("film Berlin streets" sounds strange: perhaps use "filming location for [something] Berlin"?). Perhaps just focus on the Spielberg angle? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 11:08, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How about no 4? --Andrei (talk) 19:20, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT4 sounds good; I've however changed all of the Spielberg hooks since his name was misspelled. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 23:21, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Added two sources to 4 --Andrei (talk) 08:18, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination, and is adequately sourced. I didn't find any close paraphrasing with another source. As the nominator has only two prior nominations, no QPQ is needed. There is a single "disambiguation needed" tag in the article that needs to be resolved prior to approval. Among all the hooks, ALT4 is the best option (the others are mostly too vague), but the issue right now is that the source used for the hook fact does not seem to mention Nadodrze by name, only Wrocław. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 11:41, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sources (Film Commission) mention Kurkowa and Ptasia streets, which are located within the district. That is a trivial information which can be checked with google maps, or, to complicate things, Official City Territorial Information Service, which is referenced in the article. I also removed the link to Privatization in Poland, that article is problematic. --Andrei (talk) 19:19, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Those are not sufficient; if possible, because this is a hook fact, an explicit source should be found that mentions that the film was shot in the article subject. If this cannot be done, I guess that hook will have to be declined and a different one be used. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 06:53, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Added two more links to no4--Andrei (talk) 08:05, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I checked the new Polish source and it seems to check out using a machine translation. Given that the hook fact is currently only mentioned in the gallery I'd suggest mentioning it in the prose as well, but otherwise this should now be GTG. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 04:00, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

NEIGHBORING DISTRICTS

Although it might not be strictly incorrect, it is nevertheless highly misleading to say—flatly, as here—that the Old Town borders Nadodrze to the west (full stop). The expression "Old Town" is ambiguous. It may refer to: (1) Stare_Miasto,_Wrocław, or it may refer to: (2) Wrocław_Old_Town. In the first sense, Stare Miasto is roughly L-shaped, neighbors Nadodrze significantly to the south as well, not just to the west, and by longitude actually extends farther east than Nadodrze's easternmost tip (Stare Miasto extends almost to Grunwaldzki Bridge). It should also be mentioned that Stare Miasto in sense (1) is a bit of an anachronism today. The administrative district to the west of Kępa Mieszczańska is nowadays reckoned to be Szczepin. In sense (2), the Old Town lies entirely due south of Nadodrze. By longitude, no part of it is west of Nadodrze. By popular understanding, they border each other along all of Nadodrze's southern boundary; none of its western boundary. Grandmotherfrompeoria (talk) 20:10, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]