Talk:NXT (WWE brand)

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Bo Dallas won the NXT title at the recent May tapings, but officially it hasn't happened until the episode airs. As of the last two aired episodes, Bo won a battle royale for a title shot, then had a contract signing with current champion Big E Langston. Shouldn't we not be listing taping results on this page until the show actually airs? WWE doesn't count Smackdown title changes from when the show is taped either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.183.15.204 (talk) 05:34, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jo-Jo redirection here wrong

Jo-Jo redirects here but she is not even mentioned on this redirection page.108.236.91.36 (talk) 01:36, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I've redirected it to Total Divas instead. NiciVampireHeart 17:26, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Subdivision

With the way NXT has grown and gotten a life of it's own, referring to it as a subdivision is more appropriate than merely calling it a "developmental territory", as that role has essentially been taken over by Evolve.

Vjmlhds (talk) 18:42, 7 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No, NXT still exists principally to develop wrestlers for the main roster. It's developmental. The second paragraph which covers the nature of NXT is sufficient for mentioning that it's better than your average developmental program.

And Evolve is a red herring. It does not have any formal affiliation. There's many Indies that WWE scouts, and works with (Evolve is not the only one holding prelims for the Global Cruiserweight Series). In no way has it replaced NXT as the WWE developmental territory.

Also, "subdivision" means a division of a division (hence the use of the "sub" prefix), and is just the wrong word no matter what. oknazevad (talk) 18:53, 7 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well, we're obviously at a stalemate here, so let's get a third voice in here to break the tie. I'll say this though...WWE scouts a lot of indies, but the deal between Evolve and WWE is much more intricate than just "scouting talent". The way it's structured, it goes from Evolve---->NXT---->WWE. Vjmlgds (talk) 21:02, 7 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, we could use some additional input. That said, the presence of a lower tier of development doesn't mean NXT isn't still development. To continue the baseball analogy I keep using, the presence of a Double-A affiliate (and I don't mean Arn Anderson) doesn't mean a Major League team's Triple-A affiliate isn't also developmental in purpose. Just like NXT. oknazevad (talk) 23:01, 7 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well I had asked for a third voice...who woulda thought it would be HHH? As per the reference I added in the article, HHH himself has said NXT has grown to the point where it has basically become WWE's 3rd brand (after Raw and Smackdown) If the guy who runs the place says that NXT has gone beyond being merely a "developmental" territory, then that should pretty much seal the deal. Vjmlhds (talk) 14:50, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Raw and SmackDown aren't distinct brands anymore, as the brand extension is dead. That said, he could have been intending to make a a analogy to the brand extension, as NXT does have its own identity. But it's a stretch to consider it equal to the main roster. It remains a step down and exists to prepare people for the main roster. I think the current text, with one tweak, covers it well. oknazevad (talk) 20:16, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why two articles?

Raw and SmackDown do not have separate articles for their brand and TV show, so why does NXT? --JDC808 ♫ 22:25, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone fix my mistake

I broke something Gold Doge (talk) 18:18, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

I propose that WWE Performance Center be merged into WWE NXT. I think that the content in the WWE Performance Center article can easily be explained in the context of WWE NXT, and the WWE NXT article is of a reasonable size that the merging of WWE Performance Center will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. Feedback 04:58, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The Performance Center is more than just the training facility for NXT, serving all of WWE, including preparations for last year's Cruiserweight Classic and this year's Mea Young Classic, as well as a general sports medicine center (that is to say, WWE's staff doctors and such) and is available to all on the roster. That's part of the reason it's located in Orlando: many WWE wrestlers live in the Orlando and nearby Tampa Bay metro areas as they have low taxes for independent contractors and well-connected airports. Putting the Performance Center there makes it readily available for those wrestlers, not just the NXT signees. oknazevad (talk) 15:50, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Its used for a lot more than just NXT. - Galatz ^Talk 16:29, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Performance Center is independently notable.LM2000 (talk) 05:53, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Developmental territory

I changed the verbiage away from referring to NXT as a "territory", due to it being a globally traveling brand.

Former leagues that WWE used for developmental purposes - such as Ohio Valley Wrestling and Florida Championship Wrestling - are more apt examples of a "territory" as their geographic base is in their name, and didn't travel beyond said base.

Now when NXT did everything at Full Sail, the "territory" description was appropriate... these days - not so much.

Vjmlhds (talk) 19:54, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I do not disagree with that you wrote above, but your edits [1] do not seem to match it. You removed references to it being the developmental brand too. Do you not believe it is developmental? - Galatz גאליץ ^{שיחה Talk} 14:50, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Notice what is still front and center in the lede ("While its primary purpose is to serve as a farm system for the main roster - Raw and SmackDown..."). That should make it clear that NXT is a level down from the main roster (Raw/SD), while still a brand in its own right. I also think the word "developmental" for NXT is kind of misleading...it's actually a 3-step process in WWE. First you get trained at the Performance Center (the true developmental stage), if you pass that, then you go to NXT, and if you are successful in NXT, then you go to Raw/SD (or if you're under 205 lbs, you go to 205 Live and if you break out there, then you go to Raw/SD - like Mustafa Ali for example). NXT is kind of in that middle ground...a step up from developmental (Performance Center recruit), but a step down from the main roster. Vjmlhds (talk) 20:39, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see a difference from A, AA, or AAA baseball. They are still on a baseball team in a baseball league, but the purpose is for development. - Galatz גאליץ ^{שיחה Talk} 13:11, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe A or even AA, but AAA is not developmental. AAA is a combo of young hotshots taking that one last step, and veteran journeymen keeping sharp in order to get back to the big leagues. To translate it to WWE, the Performance Center is A/AA, NXT is AAA, and Raw/SD is the majors. There IS a difference between the levels of minor league baseball, just as there's a difference between being a Performance Center recruit, working in NXT, and working on Raw/SD. Vjmlhds (talk) 18:24, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well Triple-A (baseball) describes it on wikipedia as the highest level of play in Minor League Baseball. Minor League Baseball is Americas that compete at levels below Major League Baseball (MLB) and provide opportunities for player development and a way to prepare for the major leagues. Perhaps similar wording is a good fit here. Saying that it is a brand that allows for performers to develop and prepare for the main roster. - Galatz גאליץ ^{שיחה Talk} 17:20, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

A User going by the name WWEIsTerrible has made multiple unsourced and blatantly false edits to the article introduction so as to praise competing company AEW. As I'm not a regular wiki editor, I don't want to make any changes to the article myself. Could someone revert these edits and perhaps put a protected status on the article.

I've reverted his edits and given him a warning. — Czello 07:48, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"NXT India" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect NXT India. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 7#NXT India until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 17:40, 7 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requests for Comment: "third brand"/"main roster"

Consenus for Option 3. Spy-cicle💥 ^Talk? 17:51, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Should the statements of some sources that SmackDown and Raw are the "main roster" and NXT serves as a developmental brand be mentioned in this article?LM2000 (talk) 02:13, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pick an option below and explain your reasons why:

Option 1 - This should not appear anywhere in the article.
Option 2 - This should appear only in the prose.
Option 3 - This should appear in the prose and lead section.

Survey

Option 3 - I'd argue that the prevailing theory amongst sources is that the "main roster" is indeed a real thing and it's a big deal when a wrestler is "called up" from NXT. WWE promotes it as a third brand, and I'd also argue that we need to keep their viewpoints as well, but we also can't ignore multiple independent reliable sources.LM2000 (talk) 02:13, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Option 3 - per WP:NEUTRAL and WP:INDEPENDENT. While WWE promoted NXT as the third brand (which is included), we can ignore several independent sources still calling NXT a develoment system. Wikipedia includes all points of views.--HHH Pedrigree (talk) 07:40, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I guess option 3 as that is pretty much already in the lead and prose and is fine, with the one exception of outside journalists' viewpoint not currently being in the lead. --JDC808 ♫ 10:13, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Option 3 consistent with reliable third-party sources. oknazevad (talk) 21:10, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Option 3 per editors above. Idealigic (talk) 17:05, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Option 3 per WP:NEUTRAL Sea Ane (talk) 21:09, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Vandalism

If you see someone trying to use a low quality version of the new NXT logo, please change it back to the SVG. Someone is trying to vandalize this page and WWE NXT thinking that logo is accurate. Thank you. MushroomMan674 (talk) 12:29, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 4 October 2021

NXT (WWE brand) –> NXT 2.0 (WWE brand). It is now known as NXT 2.0 and being called that on TV. PedigreeWWEFigz87V2 (talk) 15:15, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The show is being called NXT 2.0 (for now), but the brand is still just NXT, as seen on the WWE website. oknazevad (talk) 15:23, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment also see previous project discussion here. oknazevad (talk) 15:27, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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So, is it 2010 or 2012?

The lead and the prose contradict each other, failing to actually differentiate between the show and the relaunch as a brand in 2012. If this article is about the actual brand, with WWE NXT being its own page, shouldn’t it be listed as 2012? El Alternativo (talk) 23:33, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Iron survivor/Breakout Tournament Winner

will someone add the iron survivors and breakout tournament winners alongside the dusty cup winners in other accomplishments? 156.34.76.222 (talk) 01:26, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]