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Cleanup of this article

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As per classes, I have placed the cleanup tag on this page. Please aid in cleanup. AEMoreira042281 20:26, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I rated this as Start-class mostly because of three things:
  1. The article is 41kb long but only shows 3 references.
  2. The article has many lists and tables, but not much prose.
  3. The history section need expansion.
That the article is mostly unreferenced is the biggest criticism. If you can address any of these issues, I would move it up to B-class right away. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 21:34, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On that, the one issue I am unsure of what to resolve is the roster, which is updated as buses are moved around. As for the rest of the article, I am sourcing it, although the New Jersey Transit website and an unofficial site are my two main sources.

If there is something that should be cites, please tag it with {{fact}}, other than the roster which is frequently updated and changed. AEMoreira042281 04:38, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If the roster changes frequently, I would suggest that it may not be suitable for an encyclopedia article. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 17:51, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Roster has been removed, but depot assignments remain, as they are sourced. AEMoreira042281 06:29, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Roster not adequately sourced

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I suggest removing the roster, because a) A fansite is used as the only source 2) this is subject to frequent change 19:21, 17 April 2007 (UTC)Raryel

If there's going to be a new source for the bus roster, it would be nice if there was a link to it. I understand why it's not suitable for Wikipedia, but I found it very useful. Is it possible to provide a link for that information as an external link? Ctrabs74 12:26, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Separate routes into a new article?

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This article is becoming very long. If done, PDF links will be added to the route numbers. (The article would be New Jersey Transit bus routes.) AEMoreira042281 03:45, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You could model it after list of bus routes in Manhattan, split into two articles by division. Do you know anything about their history as streetcar lines? According to [1] (ca. 1926) the Public Service Railway split the numbering at Trenton; is that where the divisions are split? (See [2] for a rough map of Public Service.) [3] and its "past and present" links has some historic information. --NE2 04:31, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll start the new list, for now at Talk:New Jersey Transit Bus Operations/temporary. --NE2 13:59, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Partial list of former and current private companies

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Feel free to edit this. --NE2 10:56, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Current

(I removed some of the operators listed who do not operate service for NJT or operate service within the state.)Ctrabs74 22:28, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Rockland Coaches and Red & Tan in Hudson County are two separate operators, and have their own articles. In addition, the #22 Hillside info is in the Academy Bus article. Carefree Bus may not end up meeting [[WP:N|notability requirements. All operators linked via the {{NYC surface transit}} template have articles, except for ShortLine.
Former


I saw another article on the Short Line Bus company, but I can't remember where I saw it. It was a stub, and as far as I can recall, it had nothing to do with Coach USA ---- DanTD 01:11, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PABCO NJT codes

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Per contact with NJ Transit, the MCM-X routes do have internal NJT numbers, starting with 87X, e.g. route MCM1 (or route 1, as the bus displays have it) is route 871, MCM2 is 872, ad libitum. These numbers coincide with the TXXXX code on the rear flap of printed NJT bus timetables (e.g. the former route B1 had the T0751 code in print prior to the institution of all-numeric designations, et cetera). 71.241.121.58 07:22, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please add a section explaining about the zones used for ticketing? Is each municipality one zone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.140.50.202 (talk) 05:22, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

Removed fare section

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To avoid looking like advertising, this was removed from the article.

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Fares

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The fares for New Jersey Transit services are listed below. [1] Additional fare information, such as reduced fares, weekly, and monthly pass information can also be found here at this link.

  • Northern and Central Division routes: 1-199, 305-309, 319 (all travel to/from New York City), 324, 700-849, Morris County Metro, Wheels Suburban Transportation Services (except 976), Newark Light Rail, Coach USA ONE Bus 24, 31, and 44.
    • Central Division intrastate Turnpike Express routes crossing the Raritan River: 64, 67, 68, 308.
  • Southern Division routes: 313-318, 319 (intrastate travel), 400-619, 976, River Line.
  • Park-Ride routes with different fares: 167 (off peak to/from the Vince Lombardi Park-Ride only), 320, 321.

All fares shown below are adult fares for one-way travel except where noted as fares for round trip travel..

Service type Fare
Northern and Central Division intrastate
(excluding services operating via the New
Jersey Turnpike
south of the Raritan River)
  • 1 zone: $1.35
  • 2 zones: $2.15
  • 3 zones: $2.65
  • 4 zones: $3.20
  • 5 zones: $3.45
  • 6 zones: $4.00
  • 7 zones: $4.35
  • 8 zones: $4.80
  • 9 zones: $5.20
  • 10 zones: $5.65
  • 11 zones: $6.05
  • 12 zones: $6.45
  • 13 zones: $6.90
  • 14 zones: $7.35
  • 15 zones: $7.70
  • 16 zones: $8.15
  • 17 zones: $8.55
  • 18 zones: $8.95
  • 19 zones: $9.45
  • 20 zones: $9.80
  • 21 zones: $10.30
  • 22 zones: $10.70
  • 23 zones: $11.10
  • 24 zones: $11.60
  • 25 zones: $12.05
  • 26 zones: $12.35
  • 27 zones: $12.80
  • 28 zones: $13.20
  • 29 zones: $13.70
  • 30 zones: $14.05
  • 31 zones: $14.50
  • 32 zones: $14.90
  • 33 zones: $15.35
  • 34 zones: $15.70
  • 35 zones: $16.20
  • 36 zones: $16.50
  • 37 zones: $17.00
  • 38 zones: $17.30
To/from New York City one way1
  • 1 zone: $1.35
  • 2 zones: $2.55
  • 3 zones: $3.40
  • 4 zones: $4.40
  • 5 zones: $5.25
  • 6 zones: $6.00
  • 7 zones: $7.25
  • 8 zones: $8.00
  • 9 zones: $8.75
  • 10 zones: $9.50
  • 11 zones: $10.25
  • 12 zones: $11.00
  • 13 zones: $11.75
  • 14 zones: $12.25
  • 15 zones: $13.25
  • 16 zones: $14.00
  • 17 zones: $14.50
  • 18 zones: $15.50
  • 19 zones: $16.00
  • 20 zones: $16.75
  • 21 zones: $17.50
  • 22 zones: $18.50
  • 23 zones: $19.00
  • 24 zones: $22.50
  • 25 zones: $23.75
  • 26 zones: $24.50
  • 27 zones: $25.00
  • 28 zones: $25.75
  • 29 zones: $26.75
  • 30 zones: $27.75
  • 31 zones: $28.50
  • 32 zones: $29.50
  • 33 zones: $30.25
  • 34 zones: $31.00
  • 35 zones: $32.00
  • 36 zones: $33.00
  • 37 zones: $33.75
  • 38 zones: $34.75
  • 39 zones: $35.50
To/from New York City round-trip1
(minimum 24 zones)
N/A
  • 24 zones: $41
  • 25 zones: $42
  • 26 zones: $44
  • 27 zones: $45
  • 28 zones: $47
  • 29 zones: $48
  • 30 zones: $49
  • 31 zones: $51
  • 32 zones: $53
  • 33 zones: $54
  • 34 zones: $56
  • 35 zones: $58
  • 36 zones: $59
  • 37 zones: $60
  • 38 zones: $63
  • 39 zones: $64
Park-Ride Routes and Special Services
(Round trip fare. Passes from other lines are NOT
accepted on these lines.)
  • Vince Lombardi (167/321): $7.75 (includes parking)
  • North Bergen (320): $8.25 (includes parking), $3.25 (to Harmon-Meadow)
  • Meadowlands event service (351)3: $5.00 ($6.00 if bought on bus)
Central Division Turnpike Express intrastate
routes crossing the Raritan River,
one-way2
  • 7 zones: $5.25
  • 8 zones: $5.75
  • 9 zones: $6.50
  • 10 zones: $7.50
  • 11 zones: $8.00
  • 12 zones: $8.75
  • 13 zones: $9.25
  • 14 zones: $10.25
  • 15 zones: $10.75
  • 16 zones: $11.50
  • 17 zones: $12.00
  • 18 zones: $12.75
  • 19 zones: $13.25
  • 20 zones: $13.75
  • 21 zones: $14.50
  • 22 zones: $15.00
  • 23 zones: $18.50
  • 24 zones: $19.00
  • 25 zones: $19.75
  • 26 zones: $20.50
  • 27 zones: $21.25
  • 28 zones: $22.00
  • 29 zones: $22.50
  • 30 zones: $23.25
  • 31 zones: $24.25
  • 32 zones: $24.75
  • 33 zones: $25.50
  • 34 zones: $26.50
  • 35 zones: $27.00
  • 36 zones: $27.75
  • 37 zones: $28.50
  • 38 zones: $29.00
  • 39 zones: $33.00
Central Division Turnpike Express intrastate
routes crossing the Raritan River,
round-trip2
(mimimum 23 zones)
N/A
  • 23 zones: $33
  • 24 zones: $34
  • 25 zones: $35
  • 26 zones: $37
  • 27 zones: $38
  • 28 zones: $40
  • 29 zones: $41
  • 30 zones: $42
  • 31 zones: $44
  • 32 zones: $45
  • 33 zones: $46
  • 34 zones: $47
  • 35 zones: $48
  • 36 zones: $49
  • 37 zones: $51
  • 38 zones: $53
  • 39 zones: $54
Southern Division intrastate
  • 1 zone: $1.35
  • 2 zones: $1.90
  • 3 zones: $2.30
  • 4 zones: $2.80
  • 5 zones: $3.20
  • 6 zones: $3.55
  • 7 zones: $4.00
  • 8 zones: $4.30
  • 9 zones: $4.75
  • 10 zones: $5.15
  • 11 zones: $5.50
  • 12 zones: $5.90
  • 13 zones: $6.20
  • 14 zones: $6.65
  • 15 zones: $7.00
  • 16 zones: $7.40
  • 17 zones: $7.70
  • 18 zones: $8.15
  • 19 zones: $8.55
  • 20 zones: $8.90
  • 21 zones: $9.35
  • 22 zones: $9.65
  • 23 zones: $10.10
  • 24 zones: $10.45
Southern Division interstate
one-way
  • 1 zone: $1.45
  • 2 zones: $2.25
  • 3 zones: $3.10
  • 4 zones: $3.90
  • 5 zones: $4.65
  • 6 zones: $5.50
  • 7 zones: $6.25
  • 8 zones: $7.25
  • 9 zones: $8.00
  • 10 zones: $8.50
  • 11 zones: $10.50
  • 12 zones: $11.00
  • 13 zones: $11.75
  • 14 zones: $12.75
  • 15 zones: $13.25
  • 16 zones: $14.00
  • 17 zones: $14.75
  • 18 zones: $15.75
  • 19 zones: $16.50
  • 20 zones: $17.25
  • 21 zones: $18.20
Southern Division interstate
round-trip
(minimum 11 zones)
N/A
  • 11 zones: $17
  • 12 zones: $20
  • 13 zones: $22
  • 14 zones: $23
  • 15 zones: $24
  • 16 zones: $25
  • 17 zones: $26
  • 18 zones: $27
  • 19 zones: $30
  • 20 zones: $32
  • 21 zones: $33

Fare notes

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  1. North Jersey interstate fares apply for travel between New Jersey and Orange County, NY on the 196/197 (minimum 3 zones).
  2. For travel between Hudson and Essex Counties to points south of the Raritan River via the New Jersey Turnpike, there is a minimum seven zone charge from Newark, eight zone charge from Jersey City and Hoboken, and nine zone charge from Weehawken.
  3. Travel to and from the Meadowlands on the 351 line is $6.00 ($5.00 from a ticket vending machine or ticket window).[2]. Non-event travel to/from the Meadowlands is provided on the 164 line.
  4. Philadelphia-Atlantic City travel is available for $15.00 round trip when bought from a ticket agent at the Philadelphia or Atlantic City bus terminal.
  5. Atlantic City Line tickets and rail passes are accepted on the 551 for travel between Atlantic City and Philadelphia, and on the 554 for travel to Atlantic City Line stations between Atlantic City and Lindenwold (Atco excluded) at all times.
    1. 554 line customers using rail tickets or passes must board and alight at Lindenwold station, one block away from Hammonton, Egg Harbor City, or Absecon stations, or at the Atlantic City Bus Terminal.
    2. 551 line customers using rail tickets or passes must board and alight at the Atlantic City Bus Terminal and Philadelphia Greyhound Terminal.
  6. Travel from New Jersey to Wilmington on the 423 line is 3 fare zones.
  7. Transfers are $0.65 on North Jersey routes, and $0.60 on South Jersey routes, and are valid for a one-zone bus ride on a connecting bus or light rail line within the State of New Jersey. All transfers are valid for two hours.

--AEMoreira042281 (talk) 04:38, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References