Talk:NCAA Women's Basketball All-Americans

The following is an archived discussion of whether women's All-American players should have navigational boxes vis-a-vis the men. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section below this discussion. No further edits should be made to this specific discussion.

The result was no navboxes are to be created. The two who !voted for the first or second proposals were not as convicted, while the four others !voted for no navboxes and provided firmer stances. The discussion can always be re-opened later, but it seems clear that the consensus for now is to not create season-specific AA navboxes for women's players. SportsGuy789 (talk) 01:00, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Consensus needed on who is to be included on AA navboxes, and how those navboxes should be formatted

Unlike men's college basketball, the NCAA does not use a points system based on the media's voters to determine consensus selections. This article explains who were the women's voters and for what time periods, based on the 2019–20 preseason NCAA women's basketball award winners media guide (link). So the question becomes, which players get included on season AA navboxes if consensus teams don't exist? SportsGuy789 (talk) 16:22, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Proposal #1

Include all major media selectors for that season in the navbox by first-team selections only. Effectively, that would keep the vast majority of the "one-off" AA players from appearing in a navbox that would be otherwise considered a de facto consensus team. Examples:

Note: although the NCAA awards media guide lists Naismith (1983–2002), Women's Basketball News Service (1999–2002), and Sporting News (1998–1999) as selectors during those seasons, the media guide doesn't include these selectors' individual teams. That poses an interesting dilemma for the AA navboxes. My suggestion would then to be just include the WBCA, USBWA, and AP only regardless of season, since those have all been the top three voting bodies together since the 1994–95 season.

Proposal #2

Use only the WBCA 10-player teams for every season, since that was the original selector starting in 1974–75 and is the overall authority on women's college basketball.

Proposal #3

None, no navboxes. If no navboxes are deemed unnecessary, the alternative would be to include season-specific All-American articles in the player's See Also section (e.g. Sabrina Ionescu#See also. SportsGuy789 (talk) 19:46, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Vote

• Proposal #1 – SportsGuy789 (talk) 16:22, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

• I'm changing my vote. I've considered the fact that the yearly navboxes shown in Proposal #1 would be clunky and not very useful, and the navbox in Proposal #2 would just open the doors for future editors to create similar versions for AP and USBWA, rendering them all useless. Since there is no clear-cut way to easily show any given season's All-Americans by way of navboxes, I support Proposal #3 which is to add those links in a See Also section for the players named to All-American teams. SportsGuy789 (talk) 18:43, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

• None Do not add per WP:NENAN. I generally don't think combining group award winners by year is useful. Fails WP:NAVBOX #5: If not for the navigation template, an editor would be inclined to link many of these articles in the See also sections of the articles. Don't copy men's.—Bagumba (talk) 16:42, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
• If we choose to go with a navbox, I'd go with #1. — Dale Arnett (talk) 19:17, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
• Not being an expert on women's basketball, I'd go with #2 since you said they were the authority. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 01:06, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
• None per Bagumba. Cbl62 (talk) 08:49, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
• None - the women just don’t have as clean a process as the men in consolidating All-America teams so I think these navboxes would look clunky. Rikster2 (talk) 18:02, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

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