Talk:NBC Montana/GA1

GA Review

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Nominator: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 17:33, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: DoctorWhoFan91 (talk · contribs) 07:55, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

I'll take this one! Expect initial remarks in a few hours. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 07:55, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Stations

• In both the notes, change "holds a" to "also holds a" (can be read as a reason for the channel number otherwise, which is confusing) Done
  • This is an indication of an impending change in facility, and I'd like to leave it until the change is made which might be midyear. (This already happened in Butte)
    • Ohh, it's impending. Can you change "to move to" to "to eventually move to"/"for a planned move to"
• Translators- I'm not sure alphabetical order is the right call- perhaps state in order, then channel in order, and then translators in order would be better (sorry if my suggestion is worded confusingly)  Done
  • This is a good callout, because this is not how I typically handle translators. I did this, except Montana first.
    • Great, it looks good. There wasn't a need to remove the links, but it's good either way. A suggestion, not necessary for GA- but this info in table form might look even better
      • Context: We've had some very bloated tables for translators with a lot of information that have been hacked off.

Lead

• Can you describe what affiliate means, inferring that was difficult  Done
  • This is too foundational to put in the article, but I will quickly explain since by this question I'm guessing you're not from the US. The American television networks do not own all the stations they need to reach every household in the country. As a result, since the dawn of television, networks have had separately owned affiliates, which pay to air network programs, buy syndicated programming to fill the remaining airtime, and produce their own local news and public affairs programs. Sinclair Broadcast Group owns the station and the local operation, and it pays a fee to NBC to broadcast NBC programs in the Missoula and Butte media markets.
    • Thank you for explaining. This has helped me find network affiliate- if it's the same, you can wikilink it?
• First sentence mentions three channels, but on first glance, second para shows four, so could you reword that?
  • Intentional. KDBZ and KTVM use the same virtual channel number.
    • No, I got that, it's just confusing at first glance. perhaps (also on channel 6) for KDBZ-CD?
      • Hmm, I don't particularly like that.
      • Striking, maybe it's only confusing to me

History

all  Done, or struck

• Can you add a subheading in this somewhere (maybe before "Eagle demonstrated an ...")?
• "Mosby's, Incorporated": no comma, I think?
• "road to the mountaintop": "road to a mountaintop"?
  • Not pinging yet since I have to go, but I've handled items to here. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:01, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
• I'm confused by the studio location: a new station is built, but the studio moves to the radio's studio instead? Or was the new station the new studio for the radio only, and then KGVO moved?
  • Reworded to be a lot clearer, looking at the references.
• "The Flathead" :"The entire Flathead" (bcs needs more emphasis)
  • Disagree — that would be too many words.
• "and a translator": "as well as a translator" (bcs for a few moments, I thought KXLF was a related channel)
• "local programming even after": comma in between
• "Sullivan Productions": mentioned only here, is it relevant?
• "Mountain Time Zone": wikilink
• "ABC affiliation only to": comma in between
• "The opposition ... the Bozeman area.": confused- green light is given, but the deal only falls apart after? And is the signal interference relevant, or just what chronologically followed?
  • Chronological. Fixed.
• Nothing else except one thing between 2009 and now? Expand if possible
  • Not uncommon in this kind of article as mostly a station becomes "ownership transactions and the news department".

News operations

all  Done

• "the outset in 1968": "its outset in 1968"
• "KTVM had a Bozeman": "KTVM also had a Bozeman"
• "aired five days a week": perhaps it's just american english, but is that the right term for non-weekends? Maybe "aired only on weekdays" would be better?
• Is that it, nothing since 1993? Expand it if possible?
  • Added two new paragraphs.

Images and References

• Any possibilities more images can be added?
  • Could not find any more.
• References all good, will add the spot-check later.

Spot-check

Checking every 6th ref in general

• Ref-2: The two Butte stations ... low elevations
• Ref-7: changed its call letters to KMSO-TV
• Ref-13: Tuesday, June 4 ... Next Monday morning
• Ref-19: has dropped the acclaimed program
• Ref-25: broadcast from 11 to 10 pm
• Ref-30: more than 16 months of delay
• Ref-36: Bonten Media Group has closed on its $230-million purchase of the BlueStone Television
• Ref-43: 09/01/2017
• Ref-49: KPAX has opened up a lead ... big move for KPAX was convincing Jill Valley
• Ref-55: October 23, 1993.

Overall

Adding more remarks in a few minutes. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 16:10, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

• • Comments to here, DoctorWhoFan91: Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:52, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

All criteria fulfilled, just adding the spot-check in a few minutes, and passing. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 07:22, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Did the spot-check, everything fine. Well done, Sammi Brie, great article as always, glad to pass, congratulations. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 08:18, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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