Talk:N7 road (Ireland)

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Zoney, J1 may be standard for most routes but the N7 will expire at the Red Cow junction to become the R110.

Otherwise why would they have just erected a whole signage system which implies that Newlands Cross is Junction 1?

My guess is that the actual Red Cow itself will be part of the R110 where the Naas Road crosses the M50. (Sarah777 22:01, 17 October 2006 (UTC))

The Red Cow interchange is where the N7, M50 and R110 meet. When the freeflow arrangement is built, the connections will be more explicit (it is presumably a matter of debate as to whether the roundabout itself is N7, R110 or even M50). However, the N7 begins at the point where it meets this junction, and this has no chance of changing (elseways the N7 and M50 would not be connected by national primary road).

Newlands Cross is not the only unnumbered junction according to the new NRA numbering scheme; those junctions (esp. turn-in/turn-outs) have pretty much been ignored and only the grade separated junctions numbered.

In any case, I have an official NRA map that marks the Red Cow as junction 1 on the N7. Besides, anything else would be absurd (as the start of any route with numbered junctions in any country, including this one, begins with Junction 1). By contrast, having no number for Newlands Cross, although improper, is fairly typical for the actions of authorities here (i.e. keep things simple and worry later about anomalies).

My guess is that when Newlands Cross gets a GSJ it will be numbered J1A or such.

zoney ♣ talk 20:57, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, maybe!! But look at the M50. It starts at a junction off East Wall Road; goes through the toll, into the tunnel and emerges 3 miles on at Junction 1 !! (Sarah777 22:22, 2 December 2006 (UTC))

No, that's incorrect. Prior to the Port Tunnel addition the M50 commenced at the junction with the M1 and N32; this junction was numbered Junction 3. Now that the Port Tunnel is open, the M50 commences in East Wall at Junction 1 (which isn't strange), emerges from the Port Tunnel to join the N1/M1 at M50 Junction 2 and then recommences at M50 Junction 3. The N1/M1 has not been properly renumbered yet as far as I am aware - J2 and J3 on the M50 will likely be J1 and J2 of the M1 when this occurs.

It isn't odd either that the M50 has a "missing" section between where it joins and leaves the M1. Many roads in Ireland, including some national roads, join another route for a distance. An example is the N14 in Donegal, which has a section of N13 (the dual carriageway bit of road) inbetween its two route sections.

zoney ♣ talk 20:03, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Miles and Furlongs

Somebody (annonymous) has gone through nearly all the Irish "road" articles and added (miles) after the distance in kilometers. He gave the lenght of Limerick N7 tunnel in furlongs. This is cluttering up the text, is pointless, adds nothing and my POV is this nonsense should be deleted. The Mile is longer a legal measurement unit on Irish roads.

Zoney - your views please?? (Sarah777 21:27, 7 December 2006 (UTC))

I think it's unnecessary, but there are other articles where unit conversions are provided (sometimes controversially - e.g. providing metric on US articles). I didn't even know that tunnels were measured in furlongs in non-metric systems. zoney ♣ talk 20:03, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

It says on the signs...

Zoney, I hate to be argumentative! But. Junction 3 is at the intersection of the M50/N32/M1. Junction 2 is at the old Coolock interchange. And Junction 1 is clearly signposted; it is north of the tunnel, after the Coolock exit, where the old N1/M1 joins/leaves the traffic exiting/entering the Port Tunnel.

M50, Junction 1

The junction in the photo is Junction 1.

East Wall is Junction Zero!!(Sarah777 00:41, 13 December 2006 (UTC))

Are you sure these aren't M1 Junction 2 and 1? The M50/M1 junction is J3 on both routes. Also, although the port tunnel is M50, it is unclear whether the section between M1/M50 J3 and the port tunnel is M1 or M50.

I thought the start of the Port Tunnel at the docklands was signposted J1 on the M50?

zoney ♣ talk 12:32, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Zoney; there are signs at the entrance to the tunnel at the docks end with the J1 marker; also signs at the northern end southbound which indicate the old Coolock exit ramp is J2 and the ramp in the photo is J1; unfortunately I didn't snap the signs as it would involve stopping on the M-way; I'll try a quick shot from inside next time I'm up there. (Needless to say we avoid the Northside unless it is absolutely VITAL to go there!!) (Sarah777 22:15, 25 January 2007 (UTC))

If this is indeed true, then it really does seem that the section of motorway between the Port Tunnel and M50/M1 junction is the M1. Hence Docks entrace to port tunnel is M50 J1, the northern exit is M1 J1 (and also, but not signposted, M50 J2), Coolock is M1 J2, and M1/M50 junction is J3 for both motorways. As far as I know, in all other cases in Ireland where two routes join for a distance, the lower numbered route stays contiguous and the higher numbered one is "interrupted". It seems the section of motorway here though is deliberately not signposted because people might be confused at having to travel along part of the M1 to stay on the M50. zoney ♣ talk 19:11, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Zoney, if the two motorways are overlapping it seems they are showing the numbers for different M-ways at different exits on the same road. This must be a world first! On a related topic I phoned the NRA about what the number of Newlands Cross will be - the guy who spoke to me said that it would be No. 2. When I pointed out there was ALREADY a J2 he said basically "That's amazing - there is". Said he'd talk to someone and phone back. I'm still waiting for the call! (Sarah777 21:22, 23 March 2007 (UTC))

Newlands cross would most logically be given a number like 1a. Although I am glad you contacted them, who knows, we may have just ended up with two Junction 2s (it's happened before, on the M4, it was only later one of them was made 2a). zoney ♣ talk 13:09, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually - it makes sense under the NRA scheme having different Junction numbers on the different roads approachign a junction. The new signs on the N7 once the Red Cow Roundabout is upgraded will presumably have "1" on them, while the ones on the M50 will still have "9". zoney ♣ talk 13:14, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Junction Numbers Finished

I've created pictures for junctions 20 to 32. I will edit the appropiate pages to include these. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trans5999 (talk • contribs) 22:19, 13 September 2008 (UTC) A note to say the N7/M7 finishes at Junction 30 at Rossbrien (see Department of Transport Motorway Redesignation Publication 1 Oct 08). The Limerick Tunnel Scheme will become the N18 with junction numbers 1 for Rossbrien, 2 for Dock Rd etc.86.41.207.25 (talk) 16:28, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

J3A/The Ball

Two comments:

The LILO junction westbound after Citywest (signed for Citywest Hotel, mostly) now has signage proclaiming it to be Junction 3A. I'd add it but theres no logo-box for it; anyone got the art skills to add one?

Also, a photo of 'The Ball' at the Maudlins Interchange (J9) would definately compliment this article, if anyone has one? --85.134.188.52 (talk) 23:37, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Newlands Cross

Following the upgrade, the old "Newlands Cross" interchange no longer exists, so I've made a couple of edits. But my question is, are the junction numbers affected? It seems the new off-ramps are part of J1? Can anyone please confirm? I feel the edit is still incomplete. Nelson50^T 19:49, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

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