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Did you know... that telephone operator Myriel Davies began her long career as a peace activist during the Suez Crisis?

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet talk 19:42, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that peace activist Myriel Davies visited South Africa months after the end of apartheid? Source: Three visits made very deep and lasting impressions on her: ... South Africa a few months after apartheid came to an end.
- ALT1: ... that prior to being a peace activist, Myriel Davies worked for the General Post Office as a telephone operator until her marriage? Source: Myriel ... went to work as a telephonist with the Post Office in Carmarthen, Tenby and Cardiff ... As regulations at the time demanded, her marriage meant that she had to leave her job in the Civil Service
- ALT2: ... that prior to being a peace activist, Myriel Davies worked as a telephone operator? Source: Myriel ... went to work as a telephonist with the Post Office in Carmarthen, Tenby and Cardiff. She was appointed chief telephonist at Shrewsbury; ... went to work as a telephonist at Selfridges, London.
- ALT3: ... that prior to being a peace activist, Myriel Davies worked as a department store telephone operator? Source: same as ALT2
- ALT4: ... that prior to being a peace activist, Myriel Davies worked as a Selfridges telephone operator? Source: same as ALT2
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Poecilia chica
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Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Self-nominated at 19:25, 23 September 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Myriel Davies; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: New enough, long enough, no copyvio concerns or issues with sources. I don't love the first hook, and while the others work, they don't quite do it for me. Without putting words in your mouth, I wonder if it's possible to make something of the fact a Selfridges telephonist began a career as a peace activist during the Suez Crisis? DrThneed (talk) 04:24, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@DrThneed: Thanks for the suggestion. Taking into mind that the source is unclear on whether or not she was still at Selfridges when she joined the UNA-UK (she could've quit before the Suez Crisis), I have proposed two more alt hooks (people will be more familiar with the international, more common "telephone operator" than with strictly-British "telephonist"):

ALT5: ... that after starting a career as a Selfridges telephone operator, Myriel Davies joined the United Nations Association – UK during the Suez Crisis? Myriel went to work as a telephonist at Selfridges, London. During the Suez Crisis of 1956, she joined the United Nations Association and, when the crisis ended, she was appointed to work full-time as Campaigns Officer for the Association.

ALT6: ... that after working as a Selfridges telephone operator, Myriel Davies joined the United Nations Association – UK during the Suez Crisis? Source: same as ALT5

ミラP@Miraclepine 18:28, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, bit wordy maybe? What about

ALT7: ... that telephone operator Myriel Davies began her long career as a peace activist during the Suez Crisis?

DrThneed (talk) 01:56, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@DrThneed: That I can agree on. ミラP@Miraclepine 16:31, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Great - marking for rereview as I suggested hook, otherwise all good, thanks Miraclepine. DrThneed (talk) 19:53, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

New reviewer needed, per above. Z1720 (talk) 18:49, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]