Talk:Musa al-Kazim/Archive 1

Archive 1

Neutrality

Hi. I followed a link to this page and one word struck me quite quickly: reverential. Reading through the article, with phrases like "Ja'far al-Sadiq happily and merrily got up to see his wife Hamidah," "Musa al-Kadhim had a lean and thin body but a very strong and powerful soul", "The rude and impudent man who had been taking liberties with Musa al-Kadhim for a long time, and did not expect such a thing, was very much ashamed... ...He repaid evils with goodness and virtue. So that he put his enemies to shame... ...Musa al-Kadhim used to show love and warm feeling to his relative...", and filled with adulatory anecdotes which lack reliable sourcing, one could be forgiven for mistaking the article for a religious devotional tract. There are fundamental errors with the neutrality and reliable verification of information on this page. ITAQALLAH 18:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Not only is it tantamount to a polemical Twelver tract, we also need a better picture. I believe Musa Kazim was half-black... ناهد/(Nåhed) _speak! 02:10, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, Musa al-Kaazim was half-black. His mother was an enslaved "zanjiyyah" ("black") that Ja'far purchased then emancipated and subsequently married and trained as a scholar at her behest. We should work on a better illo... Ogress _smash! 08:10, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Resolving NPOV

I checked the article and none of the quoted sentences above were there any more. I suggest if there is no more issue in the matter of NPOV we remove the dispute tag.Kazemita1 (talk) 00:04, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I sent messages to the folks above and waited almost a week now. Since there seems to be no concerns any more, I will go ahead and remove the NPOV tag. If you are seeing this page for the first time, and still have NPOV related concerns, feel free to discuss it here.Kazemita1 (talk) 19:49, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Expanding on the article

• Hello. I am going to help expanding this article. Hadi.anani (talk) 08:44, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Removing the Label

• I edited the article once more. I hope it won't have the problem labeled on the top of the article page any longer. I hope so. Hadi.anani (talk) 11:50, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Anecdotes

I appreciate the work that people have put into this article recently. However, if the article is to ever attain a GA status, then the large number of anecdotes need to be replaced, or expanded, with analysis of those anecdotes. I am aware that this is a culturally constructed obligation that Wikipedia imposes; nonetheless, by Wikipedia's current standards, a lot of the language is not terribly useful. Vanamonde93 (talk) 05:18, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Merger proposal

Festival of Imam Musa al-Kadhim into Musa al-Kadhim (this article). There are no sources and hardly anything else in the former article. We had a bit of a discussion on Talk:Festival of Imam Musa al-Kadhim; merging seems like a good option. - HyperGaruda (talk) 16:35, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

revered mother of imam

because of white complexion of the revered seventh Imam ; her mother could not be a berber; there where at the same time slaving daughters in the british isles and carrying them to maghreb; there fore she could be either a Brits or Spanish; the same for the mother of revered eigth Imam; that was also a slave from Maghreb ; that there was mentioned a talk from christian woman saying something about the future of mother of imam at time there were in baghdad; this could be a clue that she was also Brits.But these are just pure speculation;Not based on the history. Amir Arab — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.157.144.74 (talk) 12:30, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

11:03, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

pick up the tag

I pick up the tag because I added some sources and primary sources have been supported with secondary ones. In the other hands, this tag has been for the 2016 year, if anyone has an idea it would be great to say.M1nhm (talk) 13:15, 18 November 2018 (UTC)