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The references should all be properly formatted per Wikipedia:Citing sources#How to format and place citations, and the lead should be a more comprehensive summary of the article. {{Cite news}} can help you with the former if you're not sure how to do that. That needs to be done before any more detailed review is done. I am going to close this review for now until that is worked out; please let me know when you finish that so I can tell you if it would be worth renominating it. NW(Talk)19:07, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I think you've slightly misunderstood Wikipedia policy here. You're possibly correct to suggest Bourgass isn't notable enough to have an article himself, but a redirect isn't classed as an article and thus the notability rules you're concerned with simply don't apply at all. Pretty much every murder case will have a murderer and a victim and we typically choose one or the other as the article title. We then typically also create a redirect of the name for the less notable party so people searching for that individual arrive at the relevant article concering the case. In other words, it's good practice to have created the redirect in question, it's the whole point of redirects really.--Shakehandsman (talk) 03:25, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Shakehandsman: You have this backwards. I did not mean to suggest Bourgass isn't notable enough for a standalone article. I suspect he is notable enough for a standalone article. If you know of reasons why he isn't notable -- that is what I was hoping you would offer. Geo Swan (talk) 06:02, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well the reason I created a redirect was becasue nothing existed under the name "Kamel Bourgass", neither as an article nor a redirect and at the very last a redirect was desperately needed. That was some six years ago and if you think a full article is justified then you're welcome to go ahead and create one. Alternatively, you may just want to expand the content in the current article, I don't have strong feelings either way.--Shakehandsman (talk) 05:13, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
