Talk:Movement conservatism
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IMO "Movement conservatism" is not in "wide" usage nor is that statement adequately supported by citations
[edit]I think the word "Movement" is associated with left-liberal and radical causes and occasionally with religious movements. I don't think that conservatives use the term "movement conservatism" very much and I seriously doubt that liberal analysts use the term hardly at all. IMO conservativism, per se, is wary of movements in general. See for instance "The Revolt Against the Masses" Chapter 2 of "The Conservative Movement in America" by George H Nash. In fact, what I like most about conservativism is its scepticism about mass "movements". Geofferybard (talk) 21:22, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
- Google books lists over 2000 books that use the term, most of them recent. see google. Rjensen (talk) 05:29, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
- The article opens with "was an inside term." The article doesn't seem to be claiming the term was in wide use. Lionel (talk) 07:57, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
- I came to this page because I read this article which mentioned the term, so it is in usage, in a similar context to what the article describes. IS this a useful article? http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2012/08/11/romneys-choice-of-paul-ryan-presages-end-of-an-era/ C.Heward (talk) 22:54, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
- The article opens with "was an inside term." The article doesn't seem to be claiming the term was in wide use. Lionel (talk) 07:57, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
- Google books lists over 2000 books that use the term, most of them recent. see google. Rjensen (talk) 05:29, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
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[edit]Sorry if I've formatted this incorrectly, but just wanted to say I don't think the first sentance of the second paragraph makes sense ,is there a word missing (or am I being slow?)? C.Heward (talk) 22:54, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
Thoughts from another article
[edit]- He talks about the history of American conservatism...and, in Chapter 6, modern-day "movement conservatism". He argues—particularly in Chapters 5, 6, and 9—that the subtle exploitation by movement conservatives of racial and cultural resentments through small-government rhetoric (see "dog-whistle politics") and of national-security fears were key in the movement's ability to win national elections—even though its policies concentrating wealth at the top should be deeply unpopular.
69.143.175.242 (talk) 04:49, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
Incomprehensible
[edit]I'm afraid this article is incomprehensible, at least to non-Americans. First of all, if movement conservatism took control of the Republican Party in the 1970s, does this imply that a different type of conservatism previously controlled the party, or that non-conservatives previously controlled the party? Secondly, given that it seems such a broad coalition, does the Republican Party contain conservatives who don't belong to movement conservatism, or is movement conservatism pretty much all conservatives in the Republican Party and/or in active conservative political life? Thirdly, why does it have such a weird name? Fourthly, the article contradicts itself several times. For example, we're told that movement conservatism began in the 1930s (although what type of conservatism it replaced isn't explained) but then a conservative thinker is quoted saying that movement conservative "first made its appearance in the early 1950s". 15:43, 6 July 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.178.220.197 (talk)
Article needs work
[edit]Adding to the above comment, the article cries out for an explanation of how movement conservatism differs from other types of conservatism. The name sound like it refers to idealistic conservatives at odds with pragmatic conservatism or maybe opportunist politicians weaseling their way into the Republican party. But there is no mention of that or any other conservative rivals. Another issue is why we have two articles -- Movement Conservatism and Conservatism in the United States. If Movement Conservatism has been another name for conservatism in America since 1930, why not just make it a section in Conservatism in the United States?? --Louis P. Boog (talk) 22:19, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
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