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Palestine mountain gazelle

Sir Joseph, where in the source does it say that the name is "Levantine mountain gazelle" ?

https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Mountain_gazelle&type=revision&diff=914308075&oldid=911606573 --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 14:34, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Palestine mountain gazelle" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Palestine mountain gazelle. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 17:24, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fake name "Israeli gazelle" added to lead

Someone added a fake name to the lead "Israeli gazelle" : https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Mountain_gazelle&type=revision&diff=918306470&oldid=918298906

I'm looking at both these two sources [1][2] and I cant find anything that confirms that this is an official name for Mountain gazelle (Gazella gazella). Can someone please post the exact quote from the source. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 04:59, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If the only source is the Times of Israel article, then this was a mistake, or worse. The article itself goes on to repeatedly call the animal the Palestinian mountain gazelle, including in the sub-lead. The 'Israeli gazelle' of the headline is just that, a headline which is clearly referring to the mountain gazelle / Palestine gazelle, implying that it is found today in Israel. Claiming that it means to say it is the animal's name is a stretch. Havradim (talk) 07:54, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And where is the proof for calling it Palestinian Gazelle? The scientific name is not Palestinian Gazelle and the same articles that call it Israeli Gazelle also have articles calling it Palestinian Gazelle, it's just an identifier, it's not the name of the gazelle. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 05:20, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Palestine mountain gazelle" is a real scientific name for Mountain gazelle, Antelopes: North Africa, the Middle East, and Asia p 100 :[3], Bovids of the World p 129 [4]. The sources you are talking about, when they are saying "Israeli gazelle" they are talking about the location of the gazelles, it doesn't mean its the real name of the animal, the same if an article talked about cows in israel and it would say "Israeli cows" it doesn't suddenly mean that "Israeli cows" is now an official name for all cows around the world and that you can ad it in the lead over at the Cow article. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 05:34, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Supreme Deliciousness, is that in the ref in the article? Sir Joseph ^(talk) 11:41, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes in these two refs [5] you can see that they are talking about the location of the gazelles, and that its not about that the official name of the animal is "Israeli gazelle". --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 21:04, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Supreme Deliciousness, that's not in the ref in the lead. The ref in the lead doesn't show that and more than that, has 404 errors. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 21:31, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean?--Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 05:27, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Books added. starship .paint (talk) 01:40, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if it is accurate in English, but in hebrew 'Israeli gazelle' is the name for Gazella gazella gazella the subspecies, not the species. 185.3.145.203 (talk) 09:24, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Subspecies

The Hatay mountain gazelle has been presented as a subspecies on this page for quite some time in the revision history. I can't find any source that lists the discovery of the population as a proposed new subspecies. I updated the citation with an archive link, it just proposes that this population was the existing dwindling G. gazella population in Syria that has now begun to mitigate over the border due to overhunting.

Also several subspecies are listed on another cited webpage [6], though they no longer appear here, although the information was available in a prior revision.

The subspecies listed are G. g. cora, G. g. forasani, G. g. gazella, and G. g. muscatensis, as well as G. g. cuvieri which has since been declared a separate species.--ElderWreckage (talk) 23:20, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Horns...

"Mountain gazelles are one of the few mammals in which both sexes have horns. "

Firstly, it should more logically read "... in which the females have horns."

Secondly, in all species of gazelle (and most species of antelope, in general), females have horns. (It's not that rare.)

Drsruli (talk) 06:29, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

mistake

seems i wandered into a debate regarding the naming of a goat, based on the human propensity toward possession of memetics.

apologies, Saintstephen000 (talk) 18:37, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Saintstephen000, I don't understand your recent edit. What is your source for "True Gazelle"? The naming thing was discussed in Talk:Mountain gazelle § Fake name "Israeli gazelle" added to lead, and I believe this version was stable and well-sourced. Havradim leaf a message 02:55, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]